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Hate is the calculation of how much damage you've dealt to an NPC. In more recent updates, this is often referred to as Threat.

The player having dealt the most damage to that NPC will be the target of his attacks and spells. At first, the NPC attacks are directed to the first one he saw, but as soon as he has been dealt damage by a player, the NPC may redirect his attack to the one at the top of his hate list.


Each NPC has its own hate list of each known enemy, paired with the degree to which it hates that character. The list is constantly sorted by hate, and whoever is at the top of the list is chased and attacked. Any character who drops below 1 HP is removed from the list.

The ability to generate and retain hate of an enemy (whether you want the attention or not) is often known as "aggro".

Types of Hate[edit]

There are three distinctly different channels of hate: Melee, Missile (aka "Ranged"), and Magic*.

(* Magic attacks that are made from a distance are still "Magic", not "Ranged")

If something that alters hate generation specifies one or two of those but not the third it should be assumed to specifically not affect all three. If something generically states that it "Increases/Decreases Hate generation", then it should be assumed to affect all three (unless there is a bug either with the text or the actual effect). (DDO Forums)

Managing hate[edit]

When two players are attacking the same NPC, with no other factors in play, the one dealing the most damage will be the target of its attacks. However, the character dealing the most damage is often not best equipped to withstand these attacks. For this reason, enhancements exist to allow characters with high health and low damage to draw more attention from monsters, and more fragile players to draw less. These factors stack additively - your exact bonus can be seen in the Melee Combat tab of the character tab. A negative score indicates you attract less hate than usual; a positive score, more.


Enhancements[edit]

A few enhancements have been introduced to either increase the hate you do per damage dealt or to reduce the hate per damage dealt. Characters that are better suited to withstand attacks and/or spells may be attracted to those which increase the hate. Characters less suited for it, mostly for low hit points or low Armor Class reasons, may be attracted to those which reduce hate.

Increases hate[edit]

Bug: Only provides +100% threat to ranged combat and spellcasting; offers no threat increase to melee combat.
  • Sacred Defender enhancements: Commanding Presence gives 50/100/150% bonus to melee threat generation.
  • Sacred Defender enhancements: Inciting Defense gives 150/300/450% bonus to melee threat generation.
  • Stalwart Defender enhancements: Threatening Countenance Increases hate by 60/120/180% per melee hit.
  • Stalwart Defender enhancements: Inciting Defense gives 150/300/450% bonus to melee threat generation.
  • Monk stances: The four Mountain Stances increase threat by 50%, 100%, 150% and 200%, respectively.
  • Ki Shout: This Shintao Monk ability uses the Concentration skill for an Intimidate effect.
  • Nature's Protector enhancements: Fierce Defence (Improved Natural Defence Multi Selector) - While in Nature's Defense stance, you gain 150/300/450% competence bonus to melee threat.
  • Nature's Protector enhancements: Beast Unleashed - While in under the effect of Barbarian rage and in Bear Form, you gain 50% increase to melee threat.
  • Nature's Protector enhancements: Lightning Strikes the Mountain - If in bear form when using this attack, gain 100% increase to melee threat for 15 seconds. The bonus is doubled if you are in Nature's Defense Stance.

Reduces hate[edit]

Epic Destinies[edit]

Increases hate[edit]

  • Fury of the Wild: Adrenaline - Increases melee threat by 4/8/16 each time the ability is used.
  • Unyielding Sentinel: Commanding Presence - Increases spell threat by 150/300/450%

Decreases hate[edit]

  • Exalted Angel: Subtle Flame - Decreases spell threat by 10/20/30%
  • Magus of the Eclipse: Imperceptible Casting - Decreases spell threat by 10/20/30%
  • Shadowdancer: Cover of Darkness - Decreases threat from all sources by 10/20/30%

Equipment[edit]

Increases hate[edit]

Reduces hate[edit]

Skills[edit]

In addition, skills can temporarily override the hate sorting:

  • A successful Intimidate check on a monster will bring you to the top of the hate list.
  • A successful Diplomacy check will bring you to the bottom of the hate list.
    • A character with a Subtle Target item also gains -100% threat reduction for 60 seconds after a successful diplomacy roll.
  • A successful Bluff check will reduce hate generated and opens the target for sneak damage.

Special cases[edit]

Although most monsters use the hate system as described, there are some exceptions:

  • Several raid bosses have their own unique hate system.
    • The Warforged Titan randomly cycles between attacking each visible target.
    • The Stormreaver clears his hate list each time he casts Reverse Gravity.
    • The Forgewraith Titan will occasionally break from its hate target to fire Forgewraith Doom Skulls at any visible player not on the main platform.
    • Aurgloroasa takes umbrage to anyone in her vision healing from negative damage, and will briefly break aggro to fire a negative healing debuff and a couple of blasts at them.
    • Similarly, The Ghost Flame's unwarded form will ignore melee targets in favor of nearby spellcasters. Her unwarded form attacks randomly.
    • The unwarded form of Death's Teeth doesn't have a hate list at all, picking the nearest target whenever it teleports and pursuing it relentlessly until it dies or Death's Teeth teleports again.
  • Flesh Golems are chaotic and have randomized hate. They do not consider the damage dealt; they simply attack anyone in sight and change the target very often.
  • Rust monsters prefer to attack Warforged.
  • Maruts have special hate for level 20 Rogues with the old Cheat Death capstone (as the capstone was removed, this no longer has an in-game effect.)
  • Bearded Devils, Horned Devils, and Orthons seem to have random hate when there is a lack of Intimidate, especially Named monsters.
  • Monsters that can Teleport (e.g. Orthons), Burrow (e.g. Scorpions) or otherwise become briefly intangible (e.g. Ogre Magi) tend to reset aggro when they arrive. This can be especially problematic when said opponent is a raid boss or powerful enemy such as Suulomades, or Zulkis Crowspire in Project Nemesis - be careful hitting these enemies with Damage over Time effects, as when they arrive back, they often take all of this damage at once, putting you straight at the top of the list.
  • Raid bosses have unique detection scripting to prevent indefinite hiding.DDO Forums

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