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ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message) 09:51, June 10, 2020 (EDT)
Thanks for chasing down those images for Memoirs of an Illusory Larcener. Well done. Nom (ContribsMessage) 17:29, February 14, 2021 (EST)
My pleasure. Taking images of monsters is kind of my thing around here! :) PurpleSerpent (Contribs⇑ top ⇑) 17:49, February 14, 2021 (EST)

"refreshing" of monster images?[edit]

I don't understand what you're doing by removing the monster image and adding it back again. Are you trying to refresh the page/image? There is a button to refresh the page at the top (under More). This refreshes some aspects of the page in the wiki server like templates and categories. If you are trying to refresh the image then perhaps try clearing your browser's cache for ddowiki which will force your browser to reload the image page with the new data. If you are having some other problem, can you elaborate so we can test what it is? In any case, pointlessly editing the page clogs the recent changes and increases the server storage by the size of the page (as mediawiki stores each revision's full page code) Faltout (ContribsMessage) 08:29, June 24, 2021 (EDT)

  • Ah, sorry. I'd been discussing this with User:GMTrojan earlier; it's the only way we can figure out to clear the pages in question from Category:Monsters without image, which isn't updating correctly a lot of the time. We've tried refreshing and it isn't doing anything. I wasn't aware it would be an issue. Any suggestions for what to do instead? PurpleSerpent (Contribs⇑ top ⇑) 09:49, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
    • When you add an image to the page, the page should no longer list the category. Is that not happening? If it is happening and yet the category still has the page in it, it's a job queue issue. You can usually force the job queue to run by refreshing the category or performing a null edit on the category (edit the page and click save without changing anything) or performing a null edit on the page. Next time you see a problem can you leave me a message so I can take a look at it? Faltout (ContribsMessage) 12:45, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
      • I have tried both of those methods previously; alas, to no avail. I'll be taking images of a couple of monsters in The Shadow Crypt today; I'll leave those so you can have a look at them. PurpleSerpent (Contribs⇑ top ⇑)
        • Ah, hold on. It looks like if I upload the image a while before putting its name in the monster template, it activates properly. That should solve the problem. Sorry for any inconvenience. PurpleSerpent (Contribs⇑ top ⇑) 13:14, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
          • I see what is happening. You put an image name in the template, but because {{Nopic}} checks if the image exists and returns the NoPic image, the template applies the category. Then, until the page has been updated, the category will not go away (as described in Mediawiki [1], categories applied by templates persist through a template change unless the page is refreshed). The solution to this as described is to perform a null edit (as I said above). Open the page for editing and save without any changes. You've said you tried that? Are you absolutely sure? Faltout (ContribsMessage) 15:31, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
            • Yep. On both the category and the page itself (tried it on Abishai Executioner, for example. Didn't have any visible effect, even after leaving it for 24 hours and logging on from a different device. PurpleSerpent (Contribs⇑ top ⇑) 16:20, June 24, 2021 (EDT)