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Discussion on quest list project and coding

Hello and welcome to the wiki. First of all, let me tell you I like the standards you've set for coding very much and I've tried to apply them in my coding as well. Of course there is a tradeoff to by had and I wanted to let you know before you get too far in. Reusable code and code which separates functions is great in programming because it allows for the creation of complex things by combining the various parts. However, when calling procedures/functions there is a small overhead to generate the stack entry for each function and pass the parameters. Similarly, the wiki parser tells us that there are costs associated with transcluding templates and it has limits on transclusion depth, transcluded size and also doesn't allow recursion. Considering you want to create a quest list template, you should also know that loops have a maximum number of loops and dpl has a maximum number of results. I mention those because I've ran into those issues before and had to make a choice of creating a specialized template with not much reusability or pay the cost of time and server power when loading the page.

With that said, what exactly do you want to achieve by creating a quest list with names instead of categories? We already have so many quest list templates and one of my projects was to eliminate most of them but I've ran into the trouble of admin protected templates and an admin that mostly breaks stuff instead of fixing it. My main question is "Which page do you want to use that quest list?" If it is the adventure pack pages, then the solution would be to properly categorize the quests belonging to that adventure pack and then grab them from that category. Right now the categorization is broken (by the aforementioned admin) because everything is categorized the same way "<zone>/<pack>/<patron> quests". If you want to address that situation, I would contact one of the administrators that is not Technical_13 (Contribs • Message • Email). Like Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email) or JJMC89 (Contribs • Message • Email) to make the changes proposed to Template:Quest mentioned in Template talk:Quest#questloc, adpack categorization.

"When I think code is too unreadable I may add the "unfolded" code to the talk page". You can use comments to add line breaks and make the code readable. You can have a look at how I approached this problem in Template:Quest table row meta or basically any of the templates I have created. Start a comment at the end of the code line and end it before your next code line.

⇒ Faltout (Contribs • Message • Email) 18:52, February 8, 2021 (EST)

Promotion?

Hi, I have nominated your for a ddowiki admin. Let us know what if you agree: DDO wiki talk:Administrators/promote/Corgrind. Thanks. ⇒ Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email) 16:30, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Please see discussion on rollback/undo

Hey there! Please see a discussion involving you on User talk:50.46.194.241. TL;DR of it is that rollbacks are for pure vandalism and assume no good faith. That anon user, while not seeming to understand that a ranged enhancement logically would only work on a ranged weapon and having made many other opinionated and controversial edits to the wiki, seemed to be making the edit in a good faith attempt to add something they considered valid and worth relaying to others. Those types of good faith edits should be undone instead of rolled back in the future. Thanks. :)  👟 ShoeMaker ( Talk • Contribs • Email • Patrol • Moves • B • D • I • PP • UM • UR ) 👟 10:10, October 25, 2021 (EDT)

• Ok noted ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 05:36, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

Philliree

Hello! Just wondering where you managed to get that picture. I've run The Price of Freedom a few times recently but I haven't been able to find her. ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 04:10, May 12, 2022 (EDT)

• Then you weren't looking good enoughh ;-) She's just a prisoner like the others. It might be that she is camouflaged, but that didn't happen on my recent runs (neither heroic nor epic). I usually check the cells with 'q', if I tag something other than the door. ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 14:08, May 12, 2022 (EDT)
• BTW: Sorry to steal your trophy B-) ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 14:09, May 12, 2022 (EDT)
  • Not to worry. I was looking in High Security most of the time, to be honest - I remembered her being there, but I must have been mistaken. Thanks for finding her. ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 04:01, May 13, 2022 (EDT)

Maps

Hi! Could you post (maybe on reddit or the forum, or even here) something about how you create and edit maps? It would be even better if you could post a collection of brushes that you use! ⇒ Nanocephalic (Contribs • Message • Email) 14:56, June 21, 2022 (EDT)

• see my maps tab ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 05:16, June 23, 2022 (EDT)

"None" armor vs Cosmetic armor

I notice that you've switched the "cosmetic armor" feat option I added to several cosmetic armor items back to "none". There was a point to this, as that field also determines which armor category the item is added to - at the moment, these pages are in the nonsensical category "None armor". My edits, which I've restored, put the pages into the proper "Cosmetic armor" category.

Possibly this isn't the most efficient solution (the named item templates have always worked weirdly when used for cosmetics), but it's the one we use for all the other cosmetic armor on the wiki, so these pages should follow the same format as the others. ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 11:51, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

• Assigning a type category based on a feat parameter is absolutely nonsense. ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 13:30, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

• OK, I have updated the named armor template slightly so that the pages for Cloth armor, Docents and Cosmetics no longer refer to fictional feats. Does this work better? ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 14:36, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

• ok, for now that's fine. The Name Item templates are sooo buggy at several points, but that wiill be a hell of work to fix that consistently. Also I personally get eye cancer with some of the coloring ;-) ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 14:39, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

U60: 33/67/100, Not sure if this goes here

Please check your discord ;) ⇒ Percolator (Contribs • Message • Email) 15:12, March 13, 2024 (EDT)

• • done ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 16:07, March 13, 2024 (EDT)

Not sure where else to ask...

I got an email that a diagram I had posted many months ago for a star puzzle was deleted for reason "This picture contains wrong information." You had reviewed the diagram back in August and didn't have an issue with it then other than its placement. Was this just part of your revising the Mad Tea Party quest page, or did you really think something in the diagram was wrong? I double-checked the diagram, and it agreed with the revised one you posted, hence my confusion — previous unsignedPlease sign posts using ~~~~ comment by Promethia ^{( c | e | d | r | b )}

• Having had a look at your original image, while it is technically factually correct, it's laid out pretty confusingly. The star layout in the diagram rotates between positions, and it's unclear which button you need to press to get to the next position. None of the information was wrong per se, but at the same time it wasn't all that useful for solving the puzzle. ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 02:28, May 29, 2024 (EDT)

• Couldn't have said it better myself. There also was a visual instruction on that page before, which works quite fine from my point of view. ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 03:37, May 29, 2024 (EDT)

• And I would have been fine with that explanation, or even "too confusing for most users." Look, I want to help make the site better too, and I definitely do not want to post anything incorrect or misleading. When I get something saying that I posted "wrong information", that's going to send me into a dither because I try very hard never to do that. When I double-check and don't see anything wrong, then the take down seems like an arbitrary action. My complaint, respectfully, is that a little more explanation would have helped. When I posted that diagram, I knew it was overkill for most players. It shows every configuration and every possible move for any star puzzle. I did include text that explained how to read it, so it was less confusing originally. It does not tell you which buttons to push, but there was already an adequate diagram for that. My reasoning, perhaps just a hope, was that there were other puzzle junkies or academics out there who might value the diagram as an adjunct to, but not a replacement for, the current diagram that tells you which buttons to push. Hopefully, that makes more sense now. Thank you for replying. It does help restore my faith that perhaps a volunteer organization can be inclusive of non-admins. ⇒ Promethia (Contribs • Message • Email) 04:47, May 30, 2024 (EDT)Promethia

Curative admixtures Question

In reference to your question about where I obtained the information about the damage numbers for the changes on the negative admixture pages:

Apo Alch is my main character, and have verified the numbers for damage between the Apo and A DD cleric to make sure that the damaging numbers were in fact updated at the same time back in update 48.4. The inflict Wounds spells and the Admixtures inflict spells are the same in realized damage outputs in-game. Both version were in fact updated at the same time, but unfortunately the admixtures kinda got left in the dust when it came to tooltip updates (as often is the case). I've asked the devs many times for the numbers on the admixtures to be updated, but alas they have yet to update them. I'll hit up SteelStar again and see if we can't get them in on one of these minor patches

⇒ Cmilles (Contribs • Message • Email) 23:36, August 28, 2024 (EDT)

Typo on a quest map

Hello! A forum user has pointed out to me that one of your quest map images (the one for Secrets of the Red Wizards) has a typo in the legend - the traps around the chest by Droic's note are referred to as "bobby traps" instead of "booby traps". ⇒ PurpleSerpent (Contribs • Message • Email) 09:21, September 2, 2024 (EDT)

• yes I like to do exactly that ;-) Dywypi already fixed some of that on the pages. I will fix the map together with the map of Death Hosts this Banquest after I finish my Quest list project (probably next weekend) ⇒ Corgrind (Contribs • ⇑ top ⇑ • Email) 11:56, September 2, 2024 (EDT)

Orphaned files

I see you've deleted a bunch of orphaned files recently. Please see DDO:OD on the topic. There's currently a consensus on wiki to not delete orphaned files and we'd have to have a new discussion to change that before deleting these... Please start a discussion on the deletion policy talk page or undelete them. Thanks.  👟 ShoeMaker ( Talk • Contribs • Email • Patrol • Moves • B • D • I • PP • UM • UR ) 👟 09:57, September 17, 2024 (EDT)

• I tried to follow the guidelines as per: Template:OrphanDelete for those orphaned image files. I had even personally contacted an Administrator (not Corgrind) on the 'Orphaned image files' subject for a second opinion several days ago.

It made logical sense to remove from public view the majority of those problematic orphan image files that I tagged. I noticed Corgrind seemed to have a similar view for those image files. He made a sensible and practical decision for moving most of those redundant image files. I'd support his decision for moving most of the useless inferior orphaned GIF files.

Aside I'd even support amending the Help:Images Style guide warning people not to upload static GIF files; it is now 2024, not 2008. Even in 2008, it was truly bad advice encouraging the use of static GIF on the web.

Clearly that "consensus" regarding "Orphaned [image] files", is outdated and ineffective, it needs changing or clarifying. Since several Administrators' themselves are getting mixed messages. They also agreed with my actions. Obviously the Administrators should get given easy to read Guidelines for such basic things.

Thus, we can conclude Corgrind acted in good faith for moving those images – the ones I personally flagged. The so-called guidelines were either poorly written, half-baked or seem to contradict themselves in several places.

Because the actual discussion itself seemed to imply that {{instantdelete}} would have been the most apt decision for nearly all those problematic orphan GIF images, which is somewhat strange advice. Not all, were GIF format; some clearly had both major typos in the file names and were duplicates.

I have no idea why it seems 'Tag Image File Format' uploads are allowed either. Please explain how that improves things. There, we've had a new discussion. I can copy-and-paste this if you want. Because the current system regarding processing 'Orphaned image files' seems broken, outdated, and communicated poorly. And that message is certainly lacking with regards to actual constancy.

⇒ Dywypi (Contribs • Message • Email) 16:11, September 17, 2024 (EDT)