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The Black Loch

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The Blood Tide's ruthless attack on the Black Loch struck fear into the local inhabitants.

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The Black Loch
Heroic level: 7
Epic level: 20
Duration: Medium
Heroic XP:  ♣1,279Icon tooltip.pngSolo/Casual ♦2,268Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥2,404Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠2,539Icon tooltip.pngElite
Epic XP:  ♣6,600Icon tooltip.pngSolo/Casual ♦11,486Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥11,873Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12,259Icon tooltip.pngElite
Takes place in: The Black Loch
Bestowed by: Tyn d'Deneith
NPC contact: Tyn d'Deneith
Quest acquired in: House Deneith
Patron: House Deneith
Base favor: 4
Free to Play: No
Extreme Challenge: No
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After the Blood Tide invaded the Black Loch the local residents hired House Deneith to drive the Blood Tide out.

Tyn d'Deneith is sending you to the Black Loch to deal with the problem, but she warns you that there is something unnatural about the Blood Tide invaders.

Spoiler Warning: Information below this point can be considered spoiler material!


  • Speak with Tyn d'Deneith
  • Board the ship and slay the necromancer, Dheren Kiettuc
  • Slay Dheren Kiettuc's four apprentices
  • Open the door using a Green Key
  • Open the door using a Red Key
  • Open the door using a Blue Key
  • Open the door using a Jeweled Key
  • (Optional) Slay the Black Loch's Captain — Bonus (15%): Heroic( ♣192 ♦340 ♥361 ♠381 ) Epic( ♣990 ♦1,723 ♥1,781 ♠1,839 )
  • (Optional) Kill the failed zombie experiments - 20 total — Bonus (15%): Heroic( ♣192 ♦340 ♥361 ♠381 ) Epic( ♣990 ♦1,723 ♥1,781 ♠1,839 )
  • (Optional) Use the gold key to enter the vault — Bonus (15%): Heroic( ♣192 ♦340 ♥361 ♠381 ) Epic( ♣990 ♦1,723 ♥1,781 ♠1,839 )

What to Expect

  • Trap (fixed)
  • Spawning/respawning monsters

Known Traps

Trap DCs

  • Spike trap just past the first shrine; control box is on the wall to the south, in the center of the trap. The trap *can* be timed to run through, avoiding damage.

Tips and Misc

  • Lag Issue: Once in the area of the ship, severe lag may occur when you turn to view the ship. To workaround this issue, open Options-->Adv Graphics and temporarily disable Video Post Effects. This will remove the transparency effect on the water and reduce or eliminate video lag when facing the ship.
  • The "Lag Issue" appears to be resolved with the map change.
  • The four keys are each guarded by one of Dheren Kiettuc's apprentices and several zombies
    • The Green Key is in the east-most passage
    • The Red Key is in the south lobe of the passage north of the spike traps
    • The Blue Key is in the western end of the southwest passage
    • The Jeweled Key is in the eastern end of the same passage; this time, the apprentice is surrounded by living pirates, not undead ones
    • Bug: The trigger for the 3rd room being populated requires passing a particular point on the map; the trigger doesn't cover the whole width/height of the corridor. Keep to the *left* wall when approaching the 3rd necromancer's room; should be fixed in the next patch.DDO Forums
  • With enough jump, it's possible to swim to the walkway by the ship and jump/climb up, bypassing the Blue and Jeweled Doors entirely; however, you still have to (eventually) go through them. It's a good shortcut for those wishing to simply get the Gold Key
  • Due to the unique nature of the Undead in this quest, they can be manipulated with Intimidate, Bluff, and Diplomacy although it will not trigger sneak attacks.
  • Despite coming across Failed Experiments earlier in the quest, you don't get the Optional to kill them until you stand on the pedestal in the Zombie Pen, in the northwest corner; the earlier Experiments don't count towards the 20.
  • The Vault is in the westernmost room; the Gold Key is obtained after the fight with Dheren Kiettuc.
  • The Black Loch's Captain may appear in the Vault.

Bonus XP

  • Mischief bonus: 17 or more breakables smashed +8% Bonus.( ♣102 ♦181 ♥192 ♠203 )
  • Vandal bonus: 22 or more breakables smashed +10% Bonus.( ♣128 ♦227 ♥240 ♠254 )
  • Ransack bonus: 27 or more breakables smashed +15% Bonus.( ♣192 ♦340 ♥361 ♠381 )
Notes: Aggression may only be possible on Epic


  • Chests: Three minimum, six possible, seven on epic
    • One (shaped like a clam) at the bottom of the water under the first shrine.
    • One after killing the failed zombie experiments in the pen room.
    • One per difficulty level (one for normal, two for hard, three for elite, four for epic) in the Vault
      • 14 piles of gold to click on here as well.
    • One possible in the Vault if the rare Zombie Captain appears.
    • The chest which appears after killing Dheren contains the Gold Key, required to unlock the Vault.
  • Collectables: Three
    • Moss in the Zombie Pen, in front of the pedestal
    • Moss just past the western shrines, on the eastern side of the tunnel
    • Moss just past the blue door, on the southern side of the tunnel
  • NPC rewards: Random item; choose from four


Name(picture) CR Type Race
Dheren Kiettuc(view)
Dheren Kiettuc.jpg
 ♠14Icon tooltip.pngElite ♦23Icon tooltip.pngEpic Normal ♥32Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard ♠49Icon tooltip.pngEpic Elite Humanoid Human
First Mate(view)
First Mate.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♠13Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥31Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard ♠46Icon tooltip.pngEpic Elite Monstrous Humanoid Minotaur
Karrnathi Apprentice(view)
Karrnathi Apprentice.png
 ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♦22Icon tooltip.pngEpic Normal ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard ♠45Icon tooltip.pngEpic Elite Humanoid Human
Blood Tide Archer (hobgoblin)(view)
Blood Tide Archer (hobgoblin).jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♦22Icon tooltip.pngEpic Normal ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Goblinoid Hobgoblin
Blood Tide Pirate(view)
Blood Tide Pirate.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Goblinoid Hobgoblin
Blood Tide Skirmisher(view)
Blood Tide Skirmisher.jpg
 ♦6Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥8Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠11Icon tooltip.pngElite ♦20Icon tooltip.pngEpic Normal ♥28Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Goblinoid Hobgoblin
Blood Tide Skulker(view)
Blood Tide Skulker.jpg
 ♦6Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♠11Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥28Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Reptilian Kobold
Blood Tide Sorcerer(view)
Blood Tide Sorcerer.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard ♠45Icon tooltip.pngEpic Elite Elf Drow Elf
Blood Tide Spiritcaller(view)
Blood Tide Spiritcaller.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Orc Orc
Failed Experiment(view)
Failed Experiment.jpg
 ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Undead Zombie
Human Necromancer(view)
Human Necromancer.jpg
 ♦4Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥6Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠9Icon tooltip.pngElite Humanoid Human
Zombie Marksman(view)
Zombie Marksman.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Undead Zombie
Zombie Mate(view)
Zombie Mate.png
 ♠13Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Undead Zombie
Zombie Pirate(view)
Zombie Pirate.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♥9Icon tooltip.pngHard ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Undead Zombie
Zombie Wizard(view)
Zombie Wizard.jpg
 ♦7Icon tooltip.pngNormal ♠12Icon tooltip.pngElite ♥30Icon tooltip.pngEpic Hard Undead Zombie

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External Links

U30 Video Solo Walkthrough

Background on Karrnath on the Eberron Wiki page :