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Sneak

Description

Sneaking is the ability to progress without detection past one or more enemies.

Update 19 has revised the entire stealth system for players and attackers.

Player Movement and Class/Epic Destiny Changes

Jumping and tumbling while in stealth is now possible, at a -20 penalty to Jump and Tumble skills. If any of these skills are brought to negative scores while in Sneak, they are disabled for the player.

More class enhancement trees offer Faster Sneaking to aid in avoiding being spotted.

With these Update 19 changes, abilities of the Shadowdancer epic destiny and the Ranger class were revised.

  • Shadow Training II (innate ability which formerly gave temporary jumping): Activate: For 30 seconds, while sneaking you gain: Full movement speed, +5 Attack bonus to-hit with Sneak Attacks, +2 Sneak Attack dice, +3 Hide, +3 Move Silently.
  • Hide in Plain Sight (Ranger Feat): You are a master when it comes to hiding in places others think impossible. You gain +1 Hide and +1 Move Silently for every three seconds you stand still, up to +5. While you are sneaking and standing still (for 3 seconds), enemies don't gain Spot bonuses until they get much closer to you, and the bonuses are smaller.

Update 45 changes:

  • All Sneak Speed enhancements are now on the Enhancement channel, and therefore will not stack. We've also fixed the Antirequisite flags on these abilities to more reliably prevent players from taking more than one.
  • Shadow Training II in Shadowdancer now gives a 150% Enhancement bonus to Stealth Movement Speed instead of setting you to the normal base movement.

Hide

The more eyes they get, larger the bonus they receive to Spot you.

The Hide skill works against the enemy's Spot check. The higher the Hide, the less likely you will be immediately detected as you get closer to an enemy. However, the new system makes the enemies far more vigilant.

When a stealthed player enters a line-of-sight of the enemy, the Spot check instantly begins. The player will see a series of flashing Spot detection symbols above an enemy's head, changing in color up to three states of eye symbols as the enemy's Spot bonuses increase. The closer the player or the weaker their Hide skill, the more active the "pinging", until the player moves out of the enemy's visual arc or until the enemy's Spot exceeds the player's Hide skill, and has detected the player. The further away the player, the less likely that the Spot condition may change or activate.

Prior to Update 19, the player might see one to three "eye" symbols over their character. In the new system, you'll see only a single eye over your character only when you are in line-of-sight of an enemy (their Spot check is active). If you have an eye over your character while in stealth, you should note quickly how far you are from an enemy (they could be approaching and also hidden), taking cover immediately if required to escape detection.

Update 45 changes:

  • Monster sight detection of stealthed players has been decreased by 28% (was 25 meters, now 18) if their Stealth score exceeds the monster's spot skill. This includes bosses and monsters that can see normally through stealth (All-Seeing).
  • When the player is Stealthed, they now see a visual purple eye VFX over any monster that pierces Stealth (All-Seeing and All-Hearing/Tremorsense).
  • Hearing range on "All-Hearing" monsters (aka monsters with Tremorsense) has been reduced by 10% (from 20 meters down to 18).

Move Silently

The Move Silently skill works as before, against the enemy's Listen check. The sensitivity of this check is greater. Breaking objects, the sounds of summoned creatures, or footfalls will instantly get the attention of enemies who are nearby. Enemies who hear something will show a large red question mark over their heads and immediately go to investigate the sound. Using levers, switches and opening doors generally do not make sounds in terms of stealth gameplay.

Red footfalls on a player indicate that something has sensed and is tracking you audibly. This is typical when spiders detect you, using tremor-sense, and oozes. The deeper and redder the red footfalls, the more enemies have found and can hear you.

White footfalls suggest that an enemy is nearby and may soon hear your approach (your Move Silently score is failing).

Enemy Detection, Movement and Player Escape

When a red question mark appears over their head, they have heard something and are going to investigate.

As stated, an enemy's Spot and Listen check is always active.

Enemies walk or run realistically to something suspicious and do not "slide" to you if detected as before Update 19.

An enemy that knows your position while stealthed will show a large red eye over their head. They might have targeted you by sound or sight.

If a player is detected, it is now possible to escape from a pursuer if the player can

  • Place sufficient distance between themselves and the enemy to break their ability to hear them, and
  • Break the line-of-sight to the enemy (going around a corner, for instance) and
  • Successfully go into Sneak or become invisible and remain motionless until the enemy passes.

Even an enemy with a red-eye might not know your precise location but will home in quickly to where you were initially found. If you are still stealthed and invisible, you may still be able to get away if you can sneak fast enough out of the enemy's Spot and Listen range. If you can do so, the enemy will still search for a time, but blindly.

Enemies that are moving and searching for you, while often attacking blindly to fish you out, don't get bonuses to Spot or Listen while in pursuit.

A stealthy player can move away from searching enemies with a good Move Silently skill.

After a time, the enemies will stop their search. Depending on the AI, they may return to their original location or remain in place where they halted the search.

If an enemy hears or sees something new, they will resume their search. If they aren't moving, the enemy regains their Spot bonuses.

Invisibility

Invisibility works truly as being immune to Spot unless you are too close to the enemy (within 2 meters, or a human player's body length). When invisibility is broken, the enemy may instantly spot you if they are facing you.

Invisibility does not make a player soundless. A non-stealthy player has a Move Silently score of 0. If enemies hear footfalls, they will investigate, and will find a loud, invisible player once close enough to see them. Sounds from any summons (even if they seem to float), breakables or levers could also attract enemies to invisible players.

Invisibility guards that activate while at close range may not help if you were already within 2 meters of the enemy and are likely moving loud enough for enemies to hear you at such close proximity.

Pale Masters in Wraith/Shadow forms and Shadowdancers in Shadow Form, while they appear to float, still make footfalls for the purposes of detection.

Limitations

A red eye indicates that the enemy found you.

Stealth cannot work against enemies with

  • Tremor-sense (Spiders, in general: You will see red detection eyes and red footfalls on your player once close enough to any spider.)
  • Life-force sense (some undead)
  • Blindsight (all oozes)

While stealth still works well against beholders, the monster's 360-degree Spot search with the bonus (being a giant, multi-eyed ball) means that a stealthy player has to move faster than before to attack.

Invisibility cannot work against

Again, any enemy is likely to detect you with stealth, invisibility or both if you are closer to 2 meters (one body length) from the enemy, aren't silent, or within the enemy's visual line-of-sight.

Tips

While Bard, Ranger, Monk and Rogue classes have Hide and Move Silently as class skills, it is not impossible to add additional stealth to many classes with some limits.

  • Wear light armor or no armor. Medium and Heavy Armor increase your Armor Check Penalty, reducing your effectiveness in stealth, Jump, Swim and Tumble.
  • Equip stealth-granting items such as the Cloak of Shadows to add Competence bonuses to your Hide and Move Silently skill.
  • Invisibility is immunity to Spot as long as you keep greater than 2 meters from a target, and provided they do not have True Seeing or See Invisibility. Invisibility does not make you silent. If you are adding cross-class points, add to Move Silently first if you can make yourself invisible.
  • Add more points to Jump if you sneak regularly as you have a -20 penalty while sneaking. While a score of 40 or more gives no advantages to any character while not stealthed, the extra points make the difference while sneaking. Enhancements and Competence bonus items can aid here.
  • If possible, train the Faster Sneaking enhancements, available in the Deepwood Stalker, Ninja Spy and Assassin Rogue enhancement trees.
  • Have a Ranger in your party. They can cast Camouflage, a +10 Circunstance bonus to Hide that stacks with other bonuses. They also can cast Pass Without Trace, a stacking +5 Enhancement bonus to Move Silently if you're wearing items with Competence bonuses.

Creature Entries[edit]

The following creatures have been confirmed to be capable of sneaking (there might be more - research continues - be on your guard). To detect these enemies faster and farther away, increase your own Spot skill with action points, feats, enhancements and items. It's often beneficial to wear your high-Spot items while in Sneak.

  1. Air Mephit Gladiator
  2. Air Mephit Warrior
  3. Arzag-Khor Mutt
  4. Astral Harrower
  5. Bandit Dastard
  6. Barovian Air Mephit
  7. Barovian Dust Mephit
  8. Black Twilight Wolf
  9. Blood Tide Creeper
  10. Blood Tide Skulker
  11. Bonegnawer Ghoul
  12. Boro Charldon
  13. Brush Creeper
  14. Champion Prantag
  15. Champion Tarkar
  16. Chronic Worry
  17. Cloven-Jaw Scout
  18. Crimson Foot Scout
  19. Crimson Foot Slayer
  20. Cultist Wight
  21. Darksting
  22. Deqren Marzat
  23. Desert Scorpion
  24. Dire Mist Wolf
  25. Dire Wolf
  26. Dire Wolf Stalker
  27. Dolnozz
  28. Drow Archer
  29. Drow Assassin
  30. Drow Barbarian Shaman
  31. Drow Fanatic
  32. Drow Hunter
  33. Drow Necromancer (Forgotten Realms)
  34. Drow Scorpion
  35. Drow Slaver
  36. Drow Slayer
  37. Drow Stalker
  38. Dryad
  39. Dun'Robar Warrior
  40. Dust Mephit Warrior
  41. Dwarf Thug
  42. Ecru
  43. Elf Footpad
  44. Ess'k
  45. Failed Voidmind
  46. Fallen Giant
  47. Fen Cat
  48. Fiend-Blood Lion
  49. Fiend-Blood Troglodyte Stalker
  50. Fiendish Troglodyte Scout
  51. Fiendish Troglodyte Skirmisher
  52. Fiendish Troglodyte Sniper
  53. Ga'khat
  54. Gelatinous Cube
  55. Ghelere
  56. Grataun
  57. Greater Dust Mephit
  58. Greater Hell Hound
  59. Greater Salt Mephit
  60. Greater Sand Mephit
  61. Gwydion Dogbane
  62. Halfling Bandit
  63. Hell Hound
  64. Hosha Sollego
  65. Ice Flenser
  66. Island Wolf
  67. Jarilith
  68. Jukree
  69. Kharik
  70. Kobold Rogue
  71. Large Monstrous Scorpion
  72. Maelstrom Mephit
  73. Menechtarun Ghoul
  74. Menechtarun Hyena
  75. Menechtarun Packmaster
  76. Mephit of Fernia
  77. Mephit of Lamannia
  78. Mephit of Risia
  79. Monarch Scorpion
  80. Mongrel Bloodhound
  81. Mummy
  82. Mummy Avenger
  83. Mummy Guardian
  84. Mummy Warden
  85. Mutinous First Mate Shakra
  86. Mutiny
  87. Nodeborn Sand Mephit
  88. Ophur
  89. Oran Zatlo
  90. Palumak the Scourer
  91. Pet Wolf
  92. Pride Leader Xilic
  93. Prison Guard
  94. Pure Air Mephit
  95. Pure Dust Mephit
  96. Pure Salt Mephit
  97. Pure Sand Mephit
  98. Purebred Hellhound
  99. Qualar
  100. Rancor
  101. Ravenous
  102. Rhath
  103. Rhyolite
  104. Roving Wolf
  105. Royal Guard
  106. Sage Hargrove
  107. Sand Mephit Warrior
  108. Satyr
  109. Satyr Gardener
  110. Scorrow Raider
  111. Sekkekh
  112. Sellsword Footpad
  113. Shavarath Assassin
  114. Short Fuse
  115. Teargon
  116. Thumok the Mad
  117. Tiefling Infiltrator
  118. Tiefling Scout
  119. Toxic Gelatinous Cube
  120. Twilight Lion
  121. Twilight Lioness
  122. Twilight Wolf
  123. Undead Necromancer
  124. Utach Sandcrawl
  125. Utheo Myar
  126. Vile Twilight Scorpion
  127. Vilesting
  128. Vine Horror
  129. Vine Horror Guardian
  130. Vulkoorim Shepherd
  131. Wadsworth
  132. Wight
  133. Wokran-Kull
  134. Worg Sentinel
  135. Worg Stalker
  136. Yurtik
  137. Zerisenz

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