Guild Renown

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Overview

Guild Renown (GR) is the method that a Guild uses to gain Guild Levels, as a Guild goes up in levels they unlock various Guild rewards. See Guild Level article for the list of rewards.

How to get Guild Renown

There are 3 sources for Guild Renown - killing monsters, looting chests, and completing and turning in Sagas. The first two methods may not, depending (see below), but the third, Sagas, is always guaranteed to offer a large, fixed amount of Renown.

The simplest way to gain renown is to kill NPCs (i.e. monsters). Once an NPC has been killed (whether by you or another party member, as long as you are inside the quest instance), you will have a percentage chance of gaining a (very) small amount of renown from that kill. If you are higher level than the NPC, that % chance drops. Quest, raid, and mini-bosses, as well as wilderness rares, all generate renown 100% of the time.

Chests may contain Guild Trophies (see below), but not all do. If the Character is higher level than the level of the quest/chest, the % chance for a trophy drops.

• Note that once Guild has gained 3 levels in one day, the % chance for the above two methods drops to ZERO until the next day. This is sometimes referred to as "Renown Ransack" or "Guild Ransack", and usually is only encountered by Guilds of very low level, or after Saga turn-in.

Guild Trophies (Renown tokens) can also be found in chests and reward lists:

• 50 Guild Renown (Heroic Deeds) - randomly found in chests and reward lists
• 150 Guild Renown (Tales of Valor) - randomly found in chests and reward lists
• 500 Guild Renown (Impressive Trophy) - randomly found in chests and reward lists
• 1000 Guild Renown (Legendary Victory) - randomly found in chests and reward lists
• 5000 Guild Renown - Finishing a Saga on Normal
• 7500 Guild Renown - Finishing a Saga on Hard
• 10,000 Guild Renown - Finishing a Saga on Elite
• 15,000 Guild Renown - Finishing a Saga on True Elite

Sagas offer significantly more Renown than the above methods, and are not affected by the level of the character completing them. This is not affected by "Renown Ransack". See Saga for full discussion.

Guild Renown boost

Guilds are counted by number of unique active accounts, not characters. This is the Modified Guild Size, and is viewable in the Guild tab of the Social window.

Modified Guild Size = Total Active Accounts - Inactive¹ Accounts + Recent² Departures.

1) More than 30 days since any character has logged in on that account. These accounts are not counted for any purpose in the guild.

2) Less than 14 days since the last character in that account left the guild, willingly or not.

Inactive accounts do not hurt your guild renown production or decay unless they become active again. However recent departures do. Thus booting inactive accounts may hurt your guilds overall renown production, as your modified account size will go up for 14 days after the last character from that account is removed from the guild. You'll also lose 25% of the total renown that booted characters gained while in the guild.

A guild may get a "guild bonus," depending on the Modified Guild Size, to all renown gained. This renown bonus applies to all the members receiving renown, and is earned when the Modified Guild Size is smaller than 50 accounts. Generally, the fewer the number of active accounts in your guild, the higher the bonus (guilds of 50 active accounts or more get no bonus, 25-account guilds get a small bonus, 24-account guilds get a slightly larger bonus, etc.), down to Modified Guild Size 6 guilds; below that, the bonus decreases once more.

Guilds of size 50+ have no modifier on earning or keeping guild renown.

Very Small Guild Renown Bonus

Modified Guild Size	Multiplier
1	150%
2	180%
3	210%
4	240%
5	270%
6	300%
7	285%
8	270%
9	255%
10	240%

Small Guild Renown Bonus

Modified Guild Size	Multiplier
11	225%
12	210%
13	195%
14	180%
15	165%
16	150%
17	137.02%
18	125.49%
19	115.17%
20	105.88%
21	97.48%
22	89.84%
23	82.86%
24	76.47%
25	70.59%

Medium Guild Renown Bonus

Modified Guild Size	Multiplier
26	65.16%
27	60.13%
28	55.46%
29	51.12%
30	47.06%
31	43.26%
32	39.71%
33	36.36%
34	33.22%
35	30.25%
36	27.45%
37	24.80%
38	22.29%
39	19.91%
40	17.65%

Medium Guild Renown Bonus

Modified Guild Size	Multiplier
41	15.49%
42	13.45%
43	11.49%
44	9.63%
45	7.84%
46	6.14%
47	4.51%
48	2.94%
49	1.44%
50	0%

Example:

If you had characters from 6 different active accounts in your guild (with no inactive accounts or recently departed accounts), your small guild bonus would be 300% of the base renown gained, the maximum bonus possible. A Heroic Deeds (50 renown) would enjoy a +150 renown bonus (50 x 300%) for a total 200 renown.

The same Heroic Deeds reward in a Guild including 12 active accounts would only be worth a total 155 renown (50 + {50 x 210% = +105}) - but (at least in theory) you'd have twice as many accounts actively earning favor, so better overall.

Guild renown gain can also be boosted with Guild Renown elixirs:

Strength	Minor	Lesser	Medium	Greater	Major	Superior	Sovereign
Bonus	+10%	+20%	+50%	+75%	+100%	+200%	+200%
Duration	3 hours	3 hours	3 hours	3 hours	3 hours	3 hours	6 hours

• All elixirs except Minor are available as random chest drops or from the DDOstore
• Lesser Guild Renown elixirs are available from Cannith Challenge reward items
• Bug: Elixirs actually grant an additional +100% Renown from what is indicated on the potion, so even a "Minor" (+10%) elixir will increase Guild Renown by +110%, or 2.1x the base value.

Guild Renown required per Guild Level

Guild Level is different and unrelated to Guild Size. Guild level is, in one sense, a measure of how active a guild is, of how successfully they quest. Guilds of any size can be any level, and vice versa (although smaller guilds can have a hard time earning the high amounts of renown to become and then maintain higher levels).

Level	Renown
1	0
2	400
3	1,350
4	3,200
5	6,250
6	10,800
7	17,150
8	25,600
9	36,450
10	50,000
11	66,550
12	86,400
13	109,850
14	137,200
15	168,750
16	204,800
17	245,650
18	291,600
19	342,950
20	400,000
21	463,050
22	532,400
23	608,350
24	691,200
25	781,250

Level	Renown
26	878,800
27	984,150
28	1,097,600
29	1,219,450
30	1,350,000
31	1,489,550
32	1,638,400
33	1,796,850
34	1,965,200
35	2,143,750
36	2,332,800
37	2,532,650
38	2,743,600
39	2,965,950
40	3,200,000
41	3,446,050
42	3,704,400
43	3,975,350
44	4,259,200
45	4,556,250
46	4,866,800
47	5,191,150
48	5,529,600
49	5,882,450
50	6,250,000

Level	Renown
51	6,632,550
52	7,030,400
53	7,443,850
54	7,873,200
55	8,318,750
56	8,780,800
57	9,259,650
58	9,755,600
59	10,268,950
60	10,800,000
61	11,349,050
62	11,916,400
63	12,502,350
64	13,107,200
65	13,731,250
66	14,374,800
67	15,038,150
68	15,721,600
69	16,425,450
70	17,150,000
71	17,895,550
72	18,662,400
73	19,450,850
74	20,261,200
75	21,093,750

Level	Renown
76	21,849,850
77	22,650,000
78	23,500,000
79	24,350,000
80	25,200,000
81	26,100,000
82	27,000,000
83	28,000,000
84	29,000,000
85	30,000,000
86	31,000,000
87	32,000,000
88	33,000,000
89	34,000,000
90	35,000,000
91	36,000,000
92	37,000,000
93	38,000,000
94	39,000,000
95	40,000,000
96	41,000,000
97	42,000,000
98	43,000,000
99	44,000,000
100	45,000,000

Level	Renown
101	46,000,000
102	47,000,000
103	48,000,000
104	49,000,000
105	50,000,000
106	51,000,000
107	52,000,000
108	53,000,000
109	54,000,000
110	55,000,000
111	56,000,000
112	57,000,000
113	58,000,000
114	59,000,000
115	60,000,000
116	61,000,000
117	62,000,000
118	63,000,000
119	64,000,000
120	65,000,000
121	66,000,000
122	67,000,000
123	68,000,000
124	69,000,000
125	70,000,000

Level	Renown
126	71,000,000
127	72,000,000
128	73,000,000
129	74,000,000
130	75,000,000
131	76,000,000
132	77,000,000
133	78,000,000
134	79,000,000
135	80,000,000
136	81,000,000
137	82,000,000
138	83,000,000
139	84,000,000
140	85,000,000
141	86,000,000
142	87,000,000
143	88,000,000
144	89,000,000
145	90,000,000
146	91,000,000
147	92,000,000
148	93,000,000
149	94,000,000
150	95,000,000

Level	Renown
151	95,100,000
152	95,300,000
153	95,600,000
154	96,000,000
155	96,500,000
156	97,100,000
157	97,800,000
158	98,600,000
159	99,500,000
160	100,500,000
161	101,600,000
162	102,800,000
163	104,100,000
164	105,500,000
165	107,000,000
166	108,600,000
167	110,300,000
168	112,100,000
169	114,000,000
170	116,000,000
171	118,100,000
172	120,300,000
173	122,600,000
174	125,000,000
175	127,500,000

Level	Renown
176	130,100,000
177	132,800,000
178	135,600,000
179	138,500,000
180	141,500,000
181	144,600,000
182	147,800,000
183	151,100,000
184	154,500,000
185	158,000,000
186	161,600,000
187	165,300,000
188	169,100,000
189	173,000,000
190	177,000,000
191	181,100,000
192	185,300,000
193	189,600,000
194	194,000,000
195	198,500,000
196	203,100,000
197	207,800,000
198	212,600,000
199	217,500,000
200	222,500,000

How Guilds Lose Renown

Guild renown decay

The below section is based on a combination of outdated and inaccurate information. At one point renown decay started at 26. This is no longer the case but some of the formula and charts still rely on it because accurate information has not been gathered to correctly display the new state. Now, renown starts to decay at level 151. Decay is applied once every 24 hours. The exact time this decay is applied can vary. The current theory is that the decay happens around 24 hours after your guild hit 151, but this time may change when servers go down for maintenance. It is no longer necessary to try and track when the decay is applied in order to determine amount of decay. You can simply use the formula provided below.

The formula for renown decay is a level-based multiplier. The level-based multiplier can be looked up in the list below.

Level	Multiplier
151	2.197000
152	2.460375
153	2.744000
154	3.048625
155	3.375000
156	7.447750
157	8.192000
158	8.984250
159	9.826000
160	10.718750

Level	Multiplier
161	17.496000
162	18.994875
163	20.577000
164	22.244625
165	24.000000
166	41.352600
167	44.452800
168	47.704200
169	51.110400
170	54.675000

Level	Multiplier
171	73.002000
172	77.867250
173	82.944000
174	88.236750
175	93.750000
176	119.385900
177	126.547200
178	133.989300
179	141.717600
180	149.737500

Level	Multiplier
181	184.396800
182	194.452650
183	204.867600
184	215.647950
185	226.800000
186	317.773400
187	333.659200
188	350.065800
189	367.001600
190	384.475000

Level	Multiplier
191	452.806200
192	473.701725
193	495.230400
194	517.401675
195	540.225000
196	626.344250
197	653.184000
198	680.779750
199	709.142000
200	738.281250

The level-based multiplier, shown in the table above, is determined by the minimum renown needed to be at that level, not your current renown, which is 50 * Level^3. Take every 5 levels starting at the onset of renown decay to be a tier (so level 151-155 = tier 1, level 156-160 = tier 2, etc.). Multiply the renown by the tier that the level is in. Then, multiply the product by the following:

Level	Multiplier
Level 26-40	2.5
Level 41-60	3.0
Level 61-80	3.5
Level 81-99	4.0
Level 100	4.5

Now divide by 1,000,000. The result will be the level-based multiplier for renown decay.

Example

Guild level: 151
minimum renown = 50*(Glevel)^3
minimum renown = 878,800

Level-based mult = [(Minimum renown) * (Tier multiplier)]/1,000,000
Level-based mult = [878,800 * (1 * 2.5)]/1,000,000
Level-based mult = [2,197,000]/1,000,000
Level-based mult = 2.197

Guild renown loss from leaving characters

Guilds may also lose renown when a character leaves the guild. Note that this renown is just gone, they cannot add it onto another guild.

• If a character leaves on amicable terms (by selecting that option when they voluntarily drop from the guild), 10% of the renown that character gained while a member of the guild is lost.
• If a character leaves on bad terms (by selecting that option when they voluntarily drop from the guild), 25% of the renown that character gained while a member of the guild is lost.
• If a character is expelled by an officer of the guild (regardless of if the account is inactive or not), 25% of the renown that character gained while a member of the guild is lost.
• If a character is expelled by the leader of the guild, 25% of the renown that character gained while a member of the guild is lost. This penalty may be reduced or even removed entirely if the character has been inactive for a protracted period of time; see below.
• If a character is deleted from the Character Select screen while a member of a guild, no renown is lost.
• If all characters from an account leave the guild, the Modified Guild Size is increased by 1 for the next 2 weeks. This is the "Recent Departures" portion of the Modified Guild Size. This increases the guild's daily renown decay for 14 days.

So, if a player needs to re-roll a character, they should:

1. Have at least one other character in the guild, so they won't add to the Recent Departures. If they have no other character in guild currently, bring one in as a placeholder.
2. Delete the character from the Character Select screen without removing it from the guild.
3. Recreate the character and get it re-invited to the guild.
4. Remove the placeholder character from the guild if desired. If the placeholder didn't earn any renown while in the guild, none will be lost when it leaves. If it did earn some renown, leave on amicable terms to minimize the loss.

When kicking out an inactive member, you receive:

• Full Penalty: Member was inactive for less than 1 month.
• Reduced Penalty: Member was inactive for 1 month or more, but less than 6 months.
• No Penalty: Member was inactive for 6 months or more.
• Note: These kicked members will still count as recent departures for decay purposes.

It is accordingly common practice in many active guilds for the leader to remove members who have been inactive for either 1 month or 6 months, depending on the leader's preference. Not removing characters at all may seriously hamper guild growth in the long run, as guild size impacts renown loss rate heavily past level 150.

Dev Quotes

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd Odds of renown dropping should be similar to the mechanic used to give XP vs the level of a quest. The higher the player is vs the content the lower the odds, and vice versa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd it's based on the player with the highest level in the party.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd When you run quests at level, you have a 20% chance of finding renown in chests. For every level you're above the quest level, that chance is reduced by 4%. So if you're 3 levels over, you're looking at an 8% chance to find renown.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd the level of the quest [plays] a role in the average value of the renown.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd the length of the quest affects your chances for renown in the end reward. Unless you're 5 levels over the quest, you should have a minimum of 50% chance to see renown and it goes up from there to 100% for a very long quest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) MadFloyd On Epic you have a 7% additional chance for drops from chests and monsters compared to Normal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by (former developer) Eladrin We've increased the base chance of finding trophies in chests, and also increased the "epic difficulty" bonus. End rewards should have trophies available very often. (Nearly 100% for Long or Very Long dungeons, in fact.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Update 5.1 Hotfix release notes Guild renown drops from chests and end rewards have been increased. End rewards now have a 50% chance to drop.

Post Update 15.2 changes to Guild Renown

The formula for renown decay has been temporarily changed to: (LevelMultiplier * 20)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolero : Greetings! We are putting forth modifications currently trying out some temporary adjustments to the Guild Renown system and monitoring the outcome and feedback this week. The intent is to address concerns from guilds and guild leaders regarding the impact of optimizing guild size in order to gain or maintain guild levels. We’ll be making additional balance changes that we think you and your guildmates will appreciate, but for now we have applied the changes without downtime. As of today, you will notice two changes to your renown rates: Renown decay no longer takes guild size into account. This should ease the pressure for guild leaders to “kick” members from the guild to offset daily renown decay rates. Renown decay now only takes a guild’s level into consideration rather than its size. Renown ransack has been increased. Previously when a guild earned levels in a day, it would gradually reduce the renown drop rates. We’ve increased the rate so that a guild can only earn roughly 3 levels in a single day. This should prevent large guilds from completely dominating the field in terms of levels per-day. There are some balance Pros and Cons to this method, but we’d like guilds to give us feedback about their experiences using the new settings this week. If players like the settings, or feel it is workable with minor tweaks, then we are ready to keep them! If players find the changes make matters worse, then we are scheduled to revert them. So this week, we encourage guild leaders/members to use this thread to give us feedback about how the changes are impacting your guild leveling dynamics. Important feedback for us is points where frustration has eased (or increased). Thanks for your participation as we work to improve our guild leveling system!

See also

• Best places to earn Guild Renown by Crazyfruit
• Old post on renown changes by Tolero