Talk:Clicky/log

IRC log 5/2/2012

(3:08:51 AM) Dydzio [cgiirc@AE5FA912.77551F08.4253BE13.IP] entered the room.
(3:09:00 AM) Taurolyon: Welcome
(3:09:03 AM) Dydzio: hi
(3:09:24 AM) Dydzio: is anyone else here :]?
(3:09:46 AM) Taurolyon: Not sure, been pretty quiet for a bit
(3:10:13 AM) Dydzio: hmm
(3:10:29 AM) Dydzio: i dont know exactly why im here :D found that ddowiki has irc so i connected lol
(3:10:58 AM) Dydzio: are you ddowiki editor or just simple user?
(3:11:15 AM) Taurolyon: super user
(3:11:24 AM) Dydzio: :p
(3:11:31 AM) Dydzio: lol emotes look stupid here
(3:11:43 AM) Taurolyon: yep, depends on the client
(3:12:04 AM) Dydzio: i use mibbit, and you?
(3:12:13 AM) Taurolyon: Pidgin
(3:13:37 AM) Dydzio: hmm i think ddowiki needs some improvements on some articles
(3:13:51 AM) Taurolyon: Yawg just setup this IRC a couple days ago.
(3:14:00 AM) Dydzio: cool
(3:14:05 AM) Taurolyon: that's what this is here for :)
(3:14:10 AM) Dydzio: i didnt see it before :d
(3:14:35 AM) Dydzio: i think they should improve the spells descriptions
(3:14:48 AM) Dydzio: they should add named items that have clickies of certain spell
(3:15:34 AM) Taurolyon: like the Terror, that has PK clickies?
(3:15:45 AM) Dydzio: for example..
(3:16:05 AM) Dydzio: was looking for about 10 min for death ward clickie and only way to get it was to ask ingame...
(3:16:30 AM) Dydzio: because there were no relation between death ward spells and two items that have it..
(3:16:59 AM) Taurolyon: https://ddowiki.com/page/Death_Ward should link to items like https://ddowiki.com/page/Visor_of_the_Flesh_Render_Guards
(3:17:16 AM) Dydzio: yeah
(3:17:27 AM) Taurolyon: That is an awesome idea
(3:17:47 AM) Dydzio: yeah
(3:17:58 AM) Taurolyon: do you know what the other item is off hand?
(3:18:17 AM) Dydzio: the other dw clickie is epic dusk heard but it has mass death ward
(3:18:25 AM) Dydzio: epic dusk heart*
(3:18:45 AM) Taurolyon: mass DW.. nice
(3:18:51 AM) Taurolyon: good catch
(3:19:29 AM) Dydzio: also spells should have a notification if the clickie can be found in random loot items or not..
(3:19:42 AM) Dydzio: for example rage / divine power can be found on random items
(3:20:14 AM) xevo left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
(3:20:19 AM) Dydzio: also some raid bosses have the useful information abotu what weapons to use on them
(3:20:26 AM) Dydzio: and some dont have :/
(3:20:39 AM) Dydzio: for example suulomades has this text: Recommended weapon Holy (Burst) Silver of (Greater) Lawful/Evil Outsider Bane Holy (Burst) Silver of Pure Good/Righteousness Paladin Holy Sword Lightning Strike Green Steel Bow + Silver Ammo Mineral II Green Steel Metalline of Pure Good/Righteousness Metalline Flametouched Iron Lightning S
(3:20:51 AM) Dydzio: all weps are in new lines in article
(3:20:52 AM) Dydzio: :D
(3:21:09 AM) Dydzio: and the lord of blades is missing such an information
(3:21:55 AM) Taurolyon: I think LoB is Holy/Adamantine, but I'll have to double check.
(3:22:03 AM) Dydzio: just checked and yeah it is
(3:22:18 AM) Taurolyon: cool, ty
(3:23:39 AM) Dydzio: also nice idea is to rate epic items if they are hard to get or not
(3:23:52 AM) Dydzio: because not items are exactly hard / easy to get
(3:24:20 AM) Dydzio: for example there is no information that epic ring of spell storing is hard to get :p
(3:24:24 AM) Taurolyon: oh, how I know... I'd personally rate them as all hard to get, some easier than others.. lol
(3:25:11 AM) Dydzio: some are easy to get
(3:25:12 AM) Taurolyon: Does that even exist?! lol j/k
(3:25:58 AM) Dydzio: what server do you play?
(3:26:15 AM) Taurolyon: Khyber, you?
(3:26:19 AM) Dydzio: canith
(3:26:22 AM) Dydzio: cannith*
(3:27:04 AM) Dydzio: i saw shoemaker few times on the server :D
(3:27:39 AM) Dydzio: his toon was old bearded human XD
(3:27:46 AM) Dydzio: idk if he tr-ed or not
(3:28:40 AM) Taurolyon: not sure what his DDO schedule's been like lately.
(3:29:38 AM) Dydzio: i knew a dude who was reverse engineering parts of the game to get shards droprate
(3:29:46 AM) Dydzio: but it takes time to find droprate of single shard
(3:29:55 AM) Dydzio: and idk how he does that exactly :s
(3:30:53 AM) Taurolyon: it's rough, you need to get into the internal database and pull the actual numbers - but that's if it's stored client side - those might be server side.
(3:32:01 AM) Dydzio: well the dude checked ring fo spell storing shard droprate
(3:32:09 AM) Dydzio: but i dont remember whati t was
(3:32:21 AM) Dydzio: but if i remmeber correctly it was 1 : 1333 in adq1
(3:33:20 AM) Taurolyon: it's something tiny like that... i guess they don't want it cutting into the sales of SP pots on the store, heheh
(3:34:12 AM) Taurolyon: Added items to the Death Ward page
(3:36:32 AM) Dydzio: you can also add dusk heart to death ward mass
(3:36:41 AM) Taurolyon: doing it now
(3:37:34 AM) Dydzio: i also think about a page of item clickie etc effects that are not spells and have their duration
(3:39:54 AM) Dydzio: hmm do u remember how was named the bracers
(3:40:03 AM) Dydzio: thet cure exhaustion if i remember correctly?
(3:40:11 AM) Dydzio: it had same look as jidz tetka
(3:40:44 AM) Taurolyon: hmm.. let me take a look
(3:41:34 AM) Dydzio: got it
(3:41:40 AM) Dydzio: https://ddowiki.com/page/Manacles_of_Ceaseless_Toil
(3:41:56 AM) Dydzio: there can be made a site for such effects
(3:42:08 AM) Dydzio: so players can find some useful clickies that they might want
(3:42:25 AM) Dydzio: https://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Wolf_Whistle this is also interesting
(3:46:15 AM) Taurolyon: https://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Unique_spell_effects might be a good starting index. Just get a clicky effects page made up and simply include this information in there. I can hammer out the details with Shoe, he might have a few good templates handy.
(3:46:56 AM) Taurolyon: I'll need to start going around and finding clicky items and adding them to the category.
(3:49:02 AM) Dydzio: well it would be good if tehre was one more way of the look
(3:49:20 AM) Dydzio: all effects without links, icon and description in one-two lines
(3:49:31 AM) Dydzio: (ICON) description
(3:49:35 AM) Dydzio: (ICON) description
(3:49:49 AM) Dydzio: :D
(3:49:58 AM) Dydzio: so all efectsd on one site
(3:50:01 AM) Dydzio: effects*
(3:50:13 AM) Dydzio: but first u should start filling unique effects :]
(3:50:17 AM) Dydzio: i can help you
(3:51:09 AM) Taurolyon: It'll be appreciated :)
(3:52:39 AM) Dydzio: anyway the icon - description should be made only to clickies
(3:52:56 AM) Dydzio: it might help players to find new items they need :D
(3:53:05 AM) Dydzio: by looking the unique effects on items
(3:53:47 AM) Dydzio: oh i found a bug
(3:53:55 AM) Taurolyon: oh?
(3:54:00 AM) Dydzio: or rather... link to not correct article
(3:54:05 AM) Dydzio: https://ddowiki.com/page/Purging_the_Pantheon
(3:54:12 AM) Dydzio: quell effect is unique one
(3:54:28 AM) Dydzio: and when clicking the 'quell' link it lings to monster with the same name
(3:54:32 AM) Dydzio: links*
(3:54:33 AM) Taurolyon: oh yea.. that's not right
(3:55:04 AM) Taurolyon: hmmm. now where's that article
(3:55:54 AM) Dydzio: there is no article for quell spell i guess
(3:55:57 AM) Dydzio: :f
(3:56:12 AM) Taurolyon: hmm.. must make
(3:56:31 AM) Dydzio: anyway i dont know much about this effects
(3:56:46 AM) Dydzio: on which monsters it work and on which ones it doesnt
(3:57:05 AM) Taurolyon: so.. sleepy.. may just get article full of facekeys :P
(3:57:12 AM) Taurolyon: I'll just pull it from the image
(4:02:38 AM) Dydzio: anyway i cannot find the page of unique spell effects by using ddowiki
(4:06:13 AM) Taurolyon: I believe it's the https://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Unique_spell_effects
(4:07:20 AM) Taurolyon: Whenever a page gets tagged with a Category:Unique spell effects tag (normally at the end of it), it adds it to this category.
(4:08:59 AM) Dydzio: yes its there but its impossible to find it without link
(4:18:44 AM) Taurolyon: hmm I wonder if it's not searchable by default. I'm writing up a post now to be addressed by the senior editors.
(4:18:58 AM) Taurolyon: there we go, posted - https://ddowiki.com/page/Talk:Clicky
(4:22:21 AM) Taurolyon: that should get the ball rolling. Thanks for your input! I'm gonna call it a night for now.
(4:23:02 AM) Dydzio: u want to give logs :D cool they will know all about the conversation
(4:23:16 AM) Dydzio: ok have a good night
(4:23:20 AM) Taurolyon: yep... don't want to forget anything :)
(4:23:29 AM) Dydzio: i'll stay here for a bit
(4:24:08 AM) Taurolyon: sure thing. poke Yawg and Shoe for me
(4:24:20 AM) Taurolyon: G'night :)