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Category talk:Infusion spells
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game considers all that's cast by an artificer as infusions:
- Inscribe Infusion (active): Allows an Artificer to add a targeted infusion scroll into an Artificer's spellbook. Uses existing inscription components.
--Neouni 15:30, January 30, 2012 (EST)
- No it doesn't. Despite having somatic components, infusion aren't subject to ASF.. Yet all regular artificer spells such as Reconstruct are. Yes the ingame description for that inscribe ability is incorrect. But are you surprised? An astounding amount of ingame descriptions for nearly everything is wrong in DDO, I'm sure your quite aware of that. Whoever writes them simply has very little knowledge of the game, and likely doesn't speak English. They are separate spell types. Actually even if that description was somehow correct, it wouldn't make sense that they could inscribe things like standard arcane spell scrolls such as reconstruct anyways, which they can. --Shade 05:28, February 3, 2012 (EST)
- "Regular artificer spells such as Reconstruct" are not subject to ASF. Artificers only suffer ASF from Arcane scrolls, not from spells. So, still useful to separate Artificer Infusions (spells exclusive to Artificers; no ASF from scrolls for anyone) vs. other Artificer Spells (not exclusive to Artificers; ASF from scrolls for anyone). ---Backley 16:50, February 3, 2012 (EST)
- Except that is not how we have them broken out here. I guess "Artificer Exclusive" vs. "Artificer Spells" is the distinction I'm thinking of (since there are lots of Artificer Exclusive spells that aren't Artificer Infusions).--Backley 16:54, February 3, 2012 (EST)
- Just sounds like another bug. I do recall reading a note about ASF bugs related to artificers. Scrolls aren't meant to have special ASF rules vs spells. Either way, its just a descriptor. As the main descriptor page says, they dont always directly have ingame impacts, just subtle things, like the fact these interact with items, not creatures. You could add a second descriptor for arti exclusive spells if you want. --Shade 17:07, February 3, 2012 (EST)
- It is the same ASF bug, documented it more there. Considered making an "Artificer-exclusive spells" descriptor, but decided against it since that would imply the need for "Divine-exclisive", "Bard-exclusive" etc. Think I will make 2 tables in the ASF article for "scrolls that never suffer ASF" and "scrolls that suffer ASF even when they shouldn't" listing the spell and why it should/shouldn't suffer ASF.
- Just sounds like another bug. I do recall reading a note about ASF bugs related to artificers. Scrolls aren't meant to have special ASF rules vs spells. Either way, its just a descriptor. As the main descriptor page says, they dont always directly have ingame impacts, just subtle things, like the fact these interact with items, not creatures. You could add a second descriptor for arti exclusive spells if you want. --Shade 17:07, February 3, 2012 (EST)
- No it doesn't. Despite having somatic components, infusion aren't subject to ASF.. Yet all regular artificer spells such as Reconstruct are. Yes the ingame description for that inscribe ability is incorrect. But are you surprised? An astounding amount of ingame descriptions for nearly everything is wrong in DDO, I'm sure your quite aware of that. Whoever writes them simply has very little knowledge of the game, and likely doesn't speak English. They are separate spell types. Actually even if that description was somehow correct, it wouldn't make sense that they could inscribe things like standard arcane spell scrolls such as reconstruct anyways, which they can. --Shade 05:28, February 3, 2012 (EST)