Template talk:Unique armor

Template Usage

This template is used on the Unique armor|Unique armor pages.

How to use it:

{{Unique armor
|name=Argenti's Armor
|pic=No_pic.jpg
|prof=Heavy
|reqtrait=
|UMD DC=0
|minlevel=0
|bind=Does not Bind on Acquire
|ac=11
|mdb=1
|acp=-5
|asf=40%
|dur=120
|material=Steel
|hardness=34
|cost=35,000 gp
|weight=35
|quest=Unknown
|chest=Unknown
|enh=?
|description=?
|tips= }}

Where:

• name is the name of the armor.
• pic is the picture of the armor
• prof is the proficiency of the armor (Light, Medium & Heavy are the only choices).
• reqtrait is if the are any required traits(ex. Good, Elf, Lawful, etc.) of the item. Leave this blank if no requirements
• UMD DC is the UMD Check if there is a require trait. leave at 0 if no umd roll is needed.
• minlevel is the minimum level required to use armor.
• bind is whether or not the item binds (Binds on Acquire or Does not Bind on Acquire)
• ac is the Armor class for this armor.
• mdb is the Maximium Dex Bonus allowed
• acp is the Armor Check Penalty of the Armor
• asf is the Spell Failure Chance of the Armor
• dur is the Durability of the Armor
• material is the material of the armor
• hardness is the hardness value of the armor
• cost is the value of the Armor
• weight is how much the armor weighs
• quest is what quest/event/collectable/etc. the armor could be found. (Unknown if not known, Non-Unique Location.
• chest is where the armor can be found within the location given above.
• enh is a listing of armor enhancments for the armor
• description is the text giving history of the armor
• tips is any available tips about the armor. Leave Blank if no tips.

Template Questions

Template looks great.
Type and class equals Armor & Heavy armor or is it the other way? Also do you mind if I move the fields around to match the in game descriptions? Dragonstar 14:53, December 12, 2007 (EST)

Type is Fullplate or Banded mail or Breast plate and class is light, medium or heavy. And yes, you can move things around. Borror0 15:19, December 12, 2007 (EST)

New Temaplate?

As there is no unique items nor armours in the game, i made a new Template:Specific_armor. I also made some minor editions to enhance category use and removed couple obsolite things. I do same kind of thing for weapons when i got time. BlackSmith 06:36, December 20, 2007 (EST)

You know.. it,s nice to help.. but what is different? I see one or two field renamed.. but that is pretty much it. Anything you changed? You know, when you do that kind of big change, you try to explain it to others so they don,t have to weatse their time understanding what you did. ;) Borror0 07:56, December 20, 2007 (EST)

I appreciate the help and understand what you are trying to do, But rewriting a template that is already being used and disected several times is not the way to go, especially without even discussing it with the Main item editors. The other thing to remember is that their are other template used elsewhere that rely on how we already set up the templates.

If you have an other ideas, we'll glady listen to them and if we think they are beneficial we will put them in place, but please bring it up for discussiong before actually trying to implement them especially when it is a major change to an area.→ Dragonstar 08:17, December 20, 2007 (EST)

This is the discussiong page, is it not? Reason for the name change is missnaming of the category(s) and template(s), the items are not unique, they are called specific weapons/armours. Unique items are called artifacts in DnD, there is only one piece of the item in the world (server) thus templates and categorys names are misleading. I also changed the categorys names according to the profiency names (that you already changed to this version) and removed the unseless 'Does not bind' remark. Only items that bind should have remark about it and i made it so that the editor(s) can write whatever to the optional bind attribute and the php will place it in to 'Binds on Aquire' category (Capitals against wiki standars, but copied ingame). I whipped up the new template so you could see the difference and here is the talk with the editors, ta-daa. Any more questions? btw dragonstar, is your first name Shana?. BlackSmith 10:19, December 20, 2007 (EST)

First of all, yes this is a discussion page for this template. And you didn't start a discussion you started to implement without a discussion with disregard to anything we have already done. 2nd if you do any research you will find discussions on the unique already discussed and decided upon. You can even browse DDO forums and you will find the word Unique being used all over. That is why we use it here. 3rd Proficiency names were already correct or being corrected, you just shorted what is actually saved, which is better so we used. As for the Does not bind. Its in their so people can see what binds and what doesn't, having the text show up has no effect on the item and gives the information at a quick glance. Lastly saying here is the talk with editors (what is up with that). Oh by the way do some research before assuming who I am. Its pretty obvious. Dragonstar 10:42, December 20, 2007 (EST)

Well starting the discussion on a template that would be replaced by another template is quite logical place to place the discussion. 2) True, i did not find any discussion about it. We can move this discussion there if you give me a hint what to search. 2b) Is this suposed to be wikipedia or a l33tpedia? The items are called 'Specific' in D&D. Yes in DDO forums kids call them unique as they seem to lack the knowledge what unique means. You wan't to keep using the l33t name or use the right one? 3a) Funny that they were corrected after i made the replacing template suggestion. 3b) I get the info ingame when i see the text is missing and i get the binding info when it see it saying it binds. You have a reason to do this with boolean values that are both displayed? Because that 'does not bind on Aquire' has zero information value. Following the same logic, all weapons should say 'This is NOT a excotic/martial/simple weapon'.

The reasons you have given in this discussion not to use the better named template, and why you deleted it, are because i started the discussion wrongly (in your records) and that there has been already a discussion about how to name it (where?) thus it can not be changed. The template is missnamed (no matter what the kids in DDO forum say), I corrected its name, enhanced it and cleared it up. It was no 'your work stinks' statement. Besides, it is Samy's magic in the first place. You are 63, female, live in irland, have 5 grown kids and still mad about dragons? Or are you 16, female and live in usa? What kind of resreach you want me to do based on Dragonstar nickname? Or should i start to dig up your IP instead? Your quite hostile and rude. That is preatty obious.→ BlackSmith 12:08, December 20, 2007 (EST)