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Talk:Tumble (skill)
Tumbling and falling.[edit]
I have a character with minimal tumbling, but as his jumping skill has increased, so has his resistance to falling damage. Verification of how the two skills interact, overlap, etc. on this would be useful.
- True, jump helps for that. Whether Tumbling also helps is a good question, that should be checked. Tihocan 14:50, April 11, 2006 (EDT)
- Tumblig helps a lot IMO. I have a lvl6 warrior with STR 20 and maxed jump skill (+14). He still suffers way more falling damage than my level 2 rogue with a +10 bonus to tumble. IMO tumble reduces the damage from falling (similar to the pnp rules) and jump gives a synergy bonus of something like 1/2 your jump skill to that bonus. This is just my personal impression though, some testing probably would be good.--Ziu 03:30, April 12, 2006 (EDT)
Tumbling and AC Bonus[edit]
As far as I know, there is no bonus to your AC while tumbling unless you have the Mobility feat. There is no benefit to having a high tumble score except allowing you to dive/backflip at high ranks (36/31 respectively). Sonil 16:18, April 26, 2006 (EDT)
- The benefit is in how FAR you tumble. As your skill increases, you go further. This has the effect of making it possibly to avoid an attack utterly. --KakarisMaelstrom 16:21, April 26, 2006 (EDT)
- Can anyone confirm this 100%? In the current article there is still the sentence While tumbling you gain an bonus to Armor Class of about +1 per 5 total ranks (*exact value to be confirmed*). We need to remove it if it's proven to be false. Tihocan 09:22, May 3, 2006 (EDT)
- Easily proven. You are aware of your own AC. So, roll with 5 ranks of tumble, or 50. Hit C during the tumble. You'll see ZERO improvement to your AC. To rule out that tumble just doesn't show on your character sheet, add 1 rank and the feat "Mobility". Tumble, hit C during tumble, and your AC is improved by 4. You won't see the bonus unless you hit C during the tumble because it only updates your AC on your character sheet every couple seconds. You'll see the AC drop off a few seconds after the tumble, as a result. However, if you tumble with Mobility and immediately hit C after the tumble, you'll have no bonus. The +4 only applies while you are in the tumble, with Mobility. I'll get it pulled off the article because the "exact value to be confirmed" part is definitely wrong. KakarisMaelstrom 16:52, May 3, 2006 (EDT)
- Cool, thanks :) Tihocan 13:13, May 4, 2006 (EDT)
- Easily proven. You are aware of your own AC. So, roll with 5 ranks of tumble, or 50. Hit C during the tumble. You'll see ZERO improvement to your AC. To rule out that tumble just doesn't show on your character sheet, add 1 rank and the feat "Mobility". Tumble, hit C during tumble, and your AC is improved by 4. You won't see the bonus unless you hit C during the tumble because it only updates your AC on your character sheet every couple seconds. You'll see the AC drop off a few seconds after the tumble, as a result. However, if you tumble with Mobility and immediately hit C after the tumble, you'll have no bonus. The +4 only applies while you are in the tumble, with Mobility. I'll get it pulled off the article because the "exact value to be confirmed" part is definitely wrong. KakarisMaelstrom 16:52, May 3, 2006 (EDT)
- Can anyone confirm this 100%? In the current article there is still the sentence While tumbling you gain an bonus to Armor Class of about +1 per 5 total ranks (*exact value to be confirmed*). We need to remove it if it's proven to be false. Tihocan 09:22, May 3, 2006 (EDT)
Tumbling and AC penalty[edit]
Quoting the unverified sentence: On the other hand, moving in combat gives other creatures striking you a +4 to hit. This bonus is negated by any level of tumbling. Do you mean that this -4 AC penalty is negated when tumbling (at any level of the skill), or just when walking around? By the way I will soon make some experiments to try this theory of -4 AC when moving. Tihocan 13:32, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- I think he means that tumbling negates the +4 to-hit bonus that mobs get while you are moving. Personally I don't think there *is* such a bonus, but it's virtually impossible to test, since you can't see mob attack rolls.Sonil 14:11, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- Will at least rewrite the sentence then, until it is tested Tihocan 10:45, April 28, 2006 (EDT)