Talk:Sorcerer

There are no familiars in DDO- removing for accuracy -- ArgleBargle 16:29, January 17, 2006 (PST)

No school specialization either from what I can read on the forums. You could select only spells of one school, but that is a very different thing than being a specialist. -- koolkat 10:11, February 11, 2006 (PST)

Well do did remove the access to the page that I have done to show what's the benefit of putting spells in different School. If you don't like the name you might re-namne ist. But just removing it? Why? Naryas 11:23, February 11, 2006 (PST)

I guess you're talking about this diff: http://en.ddowiki.ws/index.php?title=Sorcerer&diff=6249&oldid=6246 (use the history to see who changed what). Contact the person who made the diff if you don't like it. By the way, I would put any specialization of the sorcerer class in a specific section (like for cleric for instance), not at the beginning in the introduction. -- Tihocan 11:49, February 11, 2006 (PST)

Because an Evoker is something that doesnt exist in DDO. You think that it does, but specialist mages are not in DDO. A specialist mage (and only wizards can have a School Specialization) gives up two school to gain more benefit in his Specialized school namely being able to cast an additional spell per day per level of his chosen school. What you were describing is a sorcerer that chooses only evocation spells. That is not an Evoker. If you wish to edit them they are still present in the wiki and Ill give the links here. Abjurer, Evoker, Illusionist, Conjurer, Transmuter, Diviner, Enchanter, Necromancer. Please keep in ming what you were attempting to describe would totally confuse most D&D players as you were calling those specific specalist mages as sorcerers who only chose spells from those schools. -- koolkat 11:59, February 11, 2006 (PST)

Tihocan. I agree there is point to put them in the end instead. Pirho420 have been nice doing that :)

koolkat, I know that DDO don't have the Wizard School Specialization alá PnP in DDO. What I asked is why you didn't rename the links if you thought that "evoker" was a reserver word becource it is used for somthing in PnP that don't exist in DDO. For me it's not importen to use the word "evoker". I just wanted describe the best attributes, feats, skills etc for a Sorcerer that have selected his spells from one School. (Mabe some Wizards will think this information are usefull also. But Wizards are more a generalis in DDO then he is in PnP.) //Naryas 23:35, February 11, 2006 (PST)

I know I was getting confused and thinking that Specialization was in DDO, yet only implemented for sorcerers for some reason. It is a rather delicate point to write in english so everyone could understand what you are talking about. I am not sure what your native language is, but I can tell it isnt english. I dont know what else to call what you are suggesting doing. Personally I think it would create a gimped sorcerer because the enhancements arent school specific. Most of the enhancements will help the evocation spells and thats about it. It seems to me that they should be combined into one page about considerations about a sorcerer or something like that. -- koolkat 07:17, February 12, 2006 (PST)

"Personally I think it would create a gimped sorcerer because the enhancements arent school specific. Most of the enhancements will help the evocation spells and thats about it." It's true that the three of the enhancements right now are about elemental damage. They are realy strage. As far as I now there is no cold damage dealing spell at lvl 1 but there is a enhancements that give bonus in it. I don't think they have thought this throw realy. But I don't expekt is to change before release. But even if it from a min/max persektive right now is not the best build to avoide elemental direct damage spell build a sorcerer. Some people might think a build like that would be fun from a RP perspektive. And they might like to have advise about the more specilized builts. Then you could make a statement about the from a powergamer view in the starting a Sorcerer thread telling what the "best" spells ;) But I guess that will be highly despicable as the chances it that they will continue to change the enchanments and the effect of the spell as they evaluate the game. (And it's true I'm not english.)//Naryas 12:29, February 12, 2006 (PST)

Somewhat regardless of the depth of the conversation, sorcerers do not specialize. Wizards did. And not in DDO. KakarisMaelstrom 17:47, April 27, 2006 (EDT)

Spell points

I removed some info that should not be necessary (see here). However, it did not seem to be coherent with the spell points list in the advancement table and the bonus spell points list on the Spell point page. This should be verified. Tihocan 16:37, March 6, 2006 (EST)

I'm working on a class advancement table template, and noticed that Sorcerer here is the only one that doesn't seem to follow the formula for number of attacks in the attack sequence in the bab section. Is there a reason for this? I see no note explaining it, makes me wonder if it was left out unintentionally. ShoeMaker 16:21, June 29, 2011 (EDT)

I updated weapon proficiency based on what my pure WF sorc has, couldn't find verification on compendium though so I don't know if this is intended or not. esheep 00:53, March 23, 2012 (EDT)

It's intended/verified.. Works per PnP: Wizards are only prof in a subset of simple weapons, they dont gain the general proficiency of them.. Believe you have to purchase the feat per weapon for them, tho haven tested that in years. Think there only missing Dart anyways. Though other simple projectiles also cause them issues.

Sorcerers are a less worried about books and thus had time to train in all simple weaponry.. So they get the full feat and are proficieny with all of em, including darts and all simple projectiles.

Shade 01:07, March 23, 2012 (EDT)