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Random item locations[edit]

This guide does not reflect that a number of quest items are located in random locations. — previous unsignedIcon tooltip.pngPlease sign posts using ~~~~ comment by Melicat ( c |d| r| b) at 09:33, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

  • Once the quest item pages are created with the appropriate drop location, they'll show up here. :) DDOstream (ContribsMessage) 08:22, December 12, 2017 (EST)

Named item chest requires Search?[edit]

  • Am I reading correctly that to get any of the named items you need to have someone capable of revealing the secret door in the Library? Alucinor (ContribsMessage) 03:50, December 15, 2017 (EST)
    • Yes, but it seems to be a rather low DC so any wand, scroll or clicky of Detect Secret Doors should do. SisAmethyst (ContribsMessage) 17:34, January 2, 2018 (EST)
      • I recall using both True Seeing and Search (about 54) on Reaper1 and not getting the door to open, but I'll try it again and confirm. EDIT: I went back and checked again, with a 54 search and true seeing, the secret door next to the chest in the library can not be found on Elite. EDIT2: I poked around until I found the Khirad, the star of secrets sarcophagus. Confirmed a 60 Search does not find the door, but a 64 does, so it's in the 61-64 range on Elite. Alucinor (ContribsMessage) 16:35, January 3, 2018 (EST)
        • Are you talking Legendary or Heroic? But yeah, there are a couple of instances in Ravenloft where they've put stuff behind secret doors that had me swearing - Running Invitation to Dinner the other night, the Strahd fight was in the Treasury, behind the secret door behind the fireplace... if one of our group didn't have 2 levels of rogue, we would've been forced to restart because the other two of us couldn't find them. Which is pure BS. Of course it's silly that you can find the McGuffin and complete the quest quite quickly, but still spend 20 minutes running around trying to get to the chest with the named loot. Should be one tied to the McGuffin that spawns either with it, or back at the entrance. LrdSlvrhnd (ContribsMessage) 11:50, January 4, 2018 (EST)
          • I'm referring to Legendary. Interestingly, I've had the Strahd fight be in the treasury as well, and I was able to see that with True Seeing, whereas on other runs through I couldn't search out the door at all; maybe the DC of that one gets lowered if there's an objective behind it? Alucinor (ContribsMessage) 13:47, January 4, 2018 (EST)
            • Nope, I popped my Epic Spyglass (with True Seeing and a goodly amount of INT & Search) before my guildie got there, and wasn't able. LrdSlvrhnd (ContribsMessage) 15:55, January 4, 2018 (EST)
            • A search of 57 (well, 57.5 actually) is enough for legendary normal and hard. I'll be trying elite next to see what works -- Ziodory (ContribsMessage) 07:48, February 11, 2018 (EST)
              • 57 definitely doesn't work on legendary elite, and so doesn't 61.5; So we can probably shorten the range to 62-64. Also, I'm not sure how you guys did the, ah, answer formatting, with only one dot lower and to the right while I get a bunch of them. -- Ziodory (ContribsMessage) 08:05, February 11, 2018 (EST)
                • If that's accurate; it is a few DC lower than I'd expect for a Secret Door [Search] DC for a Level 31 quest on Legendary Elite. I'd have expected high 60s like 69 for [31] Legendary Elite. From those results above, it wouldn't surprise me if it were a Search DC 63. Legendary Normal, I'd typically expect most Secret Door Search DCs to be within the high 40s, and Legendary Hard in the 50s. Therefore its certainly not a 'Secret door' with a high Search DC for its level. Dywypi (ContribsMessage) 11:26, February 11, 2018 (EST)
                  • Well, that's kind of true, I expected them a bit higher as well. But keep in mind that without it you cannot get any named chest. A search of 60ish is relatively easy to get at cap, if you invested some points into it. And somewhat harder if you didn't. And then apparently there's a +10 buffs from the sarcophagi which makes it easier still (if bothersome, since you have to look for it). IF it were any higher it would just be insane. -- Ziodory (ContribsMessage) 11:49, February 11, 2018 (EST)
                    • From reading the Discussion: opening that specific Library Secret door is the only way you can get to a Chest containing "named" items. I agree that specific Secret door Search DC of course shouldn't be too difficult that it requires; Artificers or Rogues. Thus that door should have a lower DC than average for fairness sake. I'd suspect either the Platinum purchasable: Level 23 or 24 (22 possibly) Rogue Hireling would manage to find the Secret door on Legendary Elite (so for some groups it'd possibly be another option). Given that Search DC:64, is loosely the Suspected Search DC of a Level 22 trap on Epic Elite. Yes, the Profane bonus from [Dark Gift of: Khirad, the Star of Secrets] would help boost both a Character's Search and Spot. To the best of my knowledge, all standard 'Secret Doors' can be detected by having a Spot skill of 1. Dywypi (ContribsMessage) 05:11, February 12, 2018 (EST)
                      • Indeed. As such I would suggest putting in a notice somewhere in the page stating the need of a decent search skill in order to get named loot. The DC isn't terribly difficult if one comes prepared, but there is little so annoying as to wasting half an hour of quest only to find out you'll never get to that chest. It is sort of mentioned in the walkthrough, but it's a bit extensive and it may not be immediately obvious. As a comparison, 'Into the Mists' and 'Fresh-Baked Dreams' mention the required steps for the named loot more clearly. Although to be honest I would have even those stand out a bit more, with bolding perhaps, but I'm not sure if there are formatting standards that prevent it. -- Ziodory (ContribsMessage) 09:24, February 12, 2018 (EST)

Dark Gifts received from Amber Sarcophagi[edit]

One of the effects appears to constantly trigger an Intimidate effect, with no active use of Intimidation required. With this effect on you will constantly see the "Such and such monster cannot be influenced" message when in most Ravenloft content packed full of undead, plants, spiders, and the occasional animated object. I went into the Old Baba's Hut raid right after finishing a run of Sealed in Amber and was constantly pulling Baba's aggro without using Intimidate. Fortunately the sarcophagi buffs had worn off by the time we exited the hut the first time. -- Niminae (ContribsMessage) 19:12, March 18, 2018 (EDT)

Legendary Search DC[edit]

The Search DC for all secret doors on LE is higher than 58. 62 succeeds. -- Niminae (ContribsMessage) 03:19, March 23, 2018 (EDT)

  • It is possible the Secret Door [Search] DC could be 62 on Legendary Elite, as that would nicely follow the pattern of +2 DC per Level (Level 31 Elite). That pattern [+2] for generic Secret Door DC generally occurs in most of the lower-end Heroic Elite [F2P] quests. Of course: 'Hiding in Plain Sight', 'The Enemy Within' and 'Mask of Deception' all have notable 'Secret Door' DC "outliers". Previously higher up the page, I had an educated guess; with a suspected Legendary Elite, Secret Door Search ~ DC:63. Going only from the information given (on this page) that suggested the Secret Door had a lower than commonly expected DC. Dywypi (ContribsMessage) 07:45, March 23, 2018 (EDT)
  • Farmed this chest today, using successive granular search items and find traps. The DC on Legendary Elite is indeed 62. (Message • Block • Check) 02:41, August 8, 2018 (EDT)

Icon location[edit]

DDO Forums  👟 ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message) 👟 22:42, May 6, 2018 (EDT)

Maps not displaying correctly[edit]

I added a second map, and legends for both maps. Only the first map shows, and neither legend shows. It looks like one or more bugs in {{MissionInfoBox}}. Hoopy Froodle (ContribsMessage) 19:09, September 14, 2018 (EDT)

  • The second map now displays. Not sure if map legend can be displayed with the current implementation of MissionInfoBox.-- Cru121 (ContribsMessage) 05:50, September 15, 2018 (EDT)