Talk:Admins and edit patrols

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time for me to chime this in... since DDO relaunched, this wiki has gained so many contributers and grown hella-bunch. it indeed is a successful gaming wiki now, its not like back in 2007 anymore, when i started using this wiki as my personal online memo about DDO, lol.

however, since i have a regular job and am editing mainly at work, time i can afford for the wiki is limited like everyone else. i've been checking every single edit on the wiki, using the RecentChange RSS and Google Reader, to fix and help improve edits until recently, but within this past month or so, my Reader finally started overflowing with unread feeds.

...well, basically what im saying here is i cannot do everything for everyone anymore, due to both my RL thing and inflex in wiki contributions (which is a great thing!). i know some other contributers around are checking RecentChanges page as well, but its time for us to do edit-patrolling in a organized form. "we currently have X number of active *moderators*, this guy is responsible of quest entries, this guy is responsible of item entries, when they take a break from the game or wiki, they will let others know", that kind of stuff, you know. it will greatly help improve consistency of this wiki, as well. i know WoWwiki do this already, and we have a lot to learn from them IMO. i'd like to hear thoughts on this, form you guys.

here's our list of current sysops and superusers. and i know the list is missing many other "big" contributers. and some of you guys are like "where the f*** is f***ing Borror?" woops thats just me. we have user right issue related to captcha also, sorry for that, but if you are willing to help us furthermore, it is time for you to step up!

yoko5000 01:35, December 8, 2010 (EST)

Yeah it has undergone a significant change even since I started contributing, I am right with you in that assigning particular areas for moderation would probably be a very good thing. I try to at least check the Recent Changes several times daily, even if I don't have the time to do any editing. The Christmas period happens to be the busiest part of the year for me work wise, but I do primarily do most of my work from home.

I have that many things I want to do with the wiki but not enough to do it all quickly, lol.

UltraMonk 04:56, December 8, 2010 (EST)

anyone else? and which part of the wiki do you wanna cover, ultramonk? yoko5000 23:24, December 9, 2010 (EST)

I check Recent Pages fairly frequently also, certainly every time I start playing DDO... mostly check things I'm at least vaguely familiar with and what strikes my curiosity. I was kinda blinking at all the red ! I suddenly saw this afternoon lol Am I correct in assuming that those are "unpatrolled" articles, and patrolling is more a vandalism check than a correctness check? LrdSlvrhnd 17:56, December 10, 2010 (EST)

If you blinked at all the red, it's because I promoted you to SuperUser earlier today. Patrolling is currently an unused feature but Yoko and I we discussing of using it to moderate accuracy. It would be an handy tool to ensure each edit has been checked by at least one trusted user as you have to be a SuperUser to patrol edits. Borror0 18:37, December 10, 2010 (EST)

Yeah, I figured out it was the SuperUser thing, it just took me by surprise. So don't mark anything unless you know it's true (Gawd, I just started singing Milli Vanilli, please help me) then? Okies. LrdSlvrhnd 18:40, December 10, 2010 (EST)

All the individual item pages? UltraMonk 03:12, December 13, 2010 (EST)

thx ultramonk. im still poundering ideas, but i think we need to do a few different things to deal with the current situation.
a) establishing "cheif editor", "desk", "head" or whatever it is called for each section of the wiki

• the cheif will be responsible to do maintainance, *moderation* and such work on his/her section and keep it consistent as much as possible (contents and format) - however we dont want too much of a sectionalism, ask others for important decisions as always
• curretnly following are the list of volunteers and their designated sections
  • Yk5 - entire category structure, quest template, feat template and individual feat pages, named item category pages
  • Ultramonk - named item templates and individual item pages
  • Borror - templates, game mechanics
  • ask Guildremenber to do spell pages and possibly enhancement pages
  • ask whoever is currenty active on DDO info project to do this
  • we need some1 volunteers to do individual quest pages!
    • see how Mjoll and Delphis settles on their quest map issues
  • post on the turbine forum to find volunteers? - can be troublesome though, if the guy doesnt know much about wiki-coding and how our pages are currently set up

b) edit patrolling

• superusers and above are encouraged (but not required) to start using Special:Patrol and mark edits as patrolled, or you simply can go to Special:RecentChanges and hit "Hide patrolled edits" [1] to do the same thing
• edits by superusers and above are automatically marked as patrolled. meanwhile, Borror will handle the promotions (the wiki has user right issues). new contributers should be *educated* in this regard, by the time they reach 250 edit mark  (or ideally even less), and promoted to superuser
• when you find edits that you are not sure about, you send them to section chief
• however this might be involving burden of lots-of-clicking, as its UI doesnt seem to be too easy to use. are there alternative ways to do this?

c) expanding community pages, editing help/policy pages

• basically just mimic WoWpedia's community pages and steal pages we need (not WoWwiki, sry, which is dying...)
• making more use of the wiki forums (especially village pump)?

sry for a long post.

yoko5000 03:41, December 14, 2010 (EST)

Since im a sysop now guess I'll chime in what I tend to handle/patrol:

• Anything and everything Barbarian related (obviously, i play them a lot heh)
  • Great Axes, Great Sworsd and most two handed items: I've got these item pages nice and clean now. They almost almots all have held pics, unlike many other weapon categorys. One guy cant really handle all of these, since theres so many.. So I'm mainly gonna stick to slashing THF weapons.
  • Related feats: Got the THF pages cleaned up and up to date and watch them pretty closely.
• Categorization cleanup - Been working on this a while now.. Trying to get naming unified, and categories looking clean, and clearing the huge messy tree of deadlinks under item pages. Item pages im about 90% done now, they are a lot better. Working on misc other stuff now (character builds today, tho im pretty random what areas of the tree I target)
• Misc template improvements.. I let Tech handle the majority of that, but I clear up whatever errors I can, especially ones related to categorization. Overall though, I try to keep template usage to a minimum when appropriate, as they often create complexity wheres it not needed.
• Gona help with the administration side soon too.. We need to create a naming policy and follow it, too much inconsistant naming going on.
• Patrol occoasionally, though we got lots of users doing that atm, so it's handled quite well now.

Shade 12:36, March 24, 2012 (EDT)

• Special:Patrol doesn't seem to be working --Uurlock (Contribs • Message • Email) 15:57, August 31, 2016 (EDT)