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Category talk:Ranged weapons
Ranged weapons vs Thrown weapons[edit]
It seems to me that thrown weapons should be considered as a particular subcategory of ranged weapons. What do you think about that? Is there any reason to separate thrown weapons from ranged weapons? Tihocan 15:49, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- I put this over on your enterwiki page, but the summary is, Ranged weapons and Thrown weapons are both weapons used in "ranged combat" or "at ranged". However, thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. For a loosely related topic on the distinction of similar words see Melee. If you'd like to categorize within a hierarchy, I might suggest that you use Melee (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing) and something like Distance (thrown, ranged). They should not have used the word ranged to describe a particular subclass of ranged weapons. This is what causes the confusion on feats designed for "ranged" that are not for thrown. But, with only 5 weapon categories, I hardly see the hierarchy as necessary.KakarisMaelstrom 15:56, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- I need to go right now, but from d20srd.org: Ranged weapons are thrown weapons or projectile weapons that are not effective in melee. So where does the distinction come from, if not from the official rules? Tihocan 17:01, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- This isn't D20, this is DDO. They say "ranged weapons" to mean bows/crossbows. I wish they'd call it projectile, because then you could use the hierarchy terms melee/ranged that every other game uses. KakarisMaelstrom 18:01, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- D20 Ranged > Thrown/Projectile, Melee > Light/One-handed/Two-handed, atributes - Reach/Double, Slashing/Piercing/Bludgeoning.
- DDO Distance? > Thrown/Projectile, Melee > Slashing/Piercing/Bludgeoning, attributes - Reach (though implemented differently)/1 handed/2 handed. KakarisMaelstrom 18:07, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- Actually what I wrote here makes almost no sense. The key thing is Projectile + Thrown = Ranged, but DDO calls projectiles Ranged. KakarisMaelstrom 20:08, April 27, 2006 (EDT)
- Ok, I get you (just read what you had written on my talk page (you should have put it here). So it's just DDO who messed things again. Good to know, now we have to look for all occurrences of ranged in the Wiki and make sure it is correct (and write this somewhere too to explain this, as it's really not intuitive). Tihocan 11:01, April 28, 2006 (EDT)