User talk:GregJ

T:Songdescription

 * Which song(s) that require perform can have the perform requirement met from sources other than ranks bought with skill points? What sources count toward the requirement? &mdash;&thinsp; Zav &thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 16:23, March 30, 2015 (EDT)
 * In general, perform is no different than any other skill. Items increase the perform skill as well as items and spells increasing Charisma. I asked a Bard if Fascinate just used the base perform value and he laughed at me. If any of the songs just use the base perform, then that song would be worthless for Bards doing any content above level 8 (or whatever). I will be building a Bard next, so I'll be able to confirm it for each song individually. &mdash;&thinsp; GregJ &thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 16:40, March 30, 2015 (EDT)
 * That is true - bonuses to Perform and Charisma will boost the DC of Fascinate and other Bard songs; however, the statement in the template "Only the base number of ranks bought with skill points count toward the Perform requirement. Bonuses do not count." (emphasis mine) is for the perform requirement to play the song, not the DC of the saving throw. &mdash;&thinsp; Zav &thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 17:18, March 30, 2015 (EDT)
 * Aha! I was confused by the poor wording. The original wording would be clearer if it was a footnote (with a footnote indicator on the "Perform:" line). I will improve the wording so it doesn't have to be formatted as a footnote. Currently it is ambiguous between "requirement using perform" and "requirement for perform," the latter being the clearer, but wrong, meaning. &mdash;&thinsp; GregJ &thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 17:45, March 30, 2015 (EDT)
 * I went ahead and made it a footnote. &mdash;&thinsp; Zav &thinsp; (T&middot;E&middot;C) 18:52, March 30, 2015 (EDT)