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Requests for Page Deletion

 * Any and all page deletion requests will be placed here. Please provide good justification as to why you think it should be deleted.

Green Steel Tidy Up

 * The following list of pages are not for immediate deletion, I am compiling this list as I integrate all the information I find everywhere on the wiki into my guide: Current Projects
 * I will notify an admin when all pages have been processed, I do have a compiled list of links on my Links page I have compiled and am sifting through.

These pages once all incorporated should have their redirects forward to the initial introduction page as a starting point for those seeking information: Green Steel: Introduction.


 * Manufactured Green Steel ingredients Working On for Tier 1,2 & 3.
 * Green Steel deconstruction - Incorporated
 * Green Steel Accessory - Incorporated
 * Green Steel item crafting steps - Incorporated
 * Green Steel items - Incorporated
 * Raw Ingredient - Incorporated
 * Raw Green Steel ingredients - Incorporated
 * Green Steel blank - Incorporated
 * Green Steel equipment - Incorporated
 * Green Steel quick guide - Incorporated

Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 15:52, May 7, 2014 (EDT)


 * I will keep eye on these, already replaced obvious one (Green Steel equipment) with a redirect (thats what you do, replace with redirect not just delete). I really dig your idea of replacing recipe chart with new UI screenshots. &rarr; [[Image:CRAFTred.png]] however, I do have a concern that, some of your terminology aren't helpful to us old-timers. for example "Crafted ingredient" is bad, stick with "Manufactured ingredient". "Stage 1,2,3" is the one really bad, "Tier 1,2,3" is the one more commonly used in this matter. well I guess we have to have another place for discussion but I used to put a lot of effort onto these Green Steel pages just to keep the terminology intact. I remember things around dual shard upgrade were very tricky, people were coming up with their own terminology left and right (Quasi-Focus, Aspect Dominance, Dual-Affinities, uh yikes...) GS pages are like most ancient pages on this wiki and I know they still are somewhat messed up but they are not end game anymore but twink gear for TR grind, so we probably shouldn't mess with terminology at all.  --yoko5000 (Contributions • Message) 02:57, May 10, 2014 (EDT)
 * I would recommend keeping the terminology the same too. It's what everyone knows and (maybe) loves.  Perhaps providing a small description for the old terminology to help those who are new to GS crafting...  -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · Blocks · Deletions · Imports · Patrols · Page Moves · Page Protects · User Merges · User Rights) 09:34, May 11, 2014 (EDT)

Taking on board the comments about traditional naming values for green steel crafting steps I have amended all instances of the word STAGE to the much more well known and community wide used name of TIER. Thanks for the constructive input guys, I knew full well I was rocking the status quo when I implemented the STAGE name, it was purposeful to see the uptake on it; more to check if it was a clearer was of presenting this crafting process. Its not, and thats a good thing as sometimes the old ways ARE the best ways after all, but good to check now & then. Slow going right with this project as I just enjoyed a fishing trip for a few days to disconnect myself and recharge; so its back to it !!

But on the note of the 'manufactered' description - thats has to go as a manufactured item involves production and assembly - usually bulk quantities via factories; look at Cannith Manufactury - thats why its named thus - mass production. The 'Crafting' description is much more fitting to this area as a crafted item is made by an individual from start to finish as is Green Steel. Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 07:29, May 12, 2014 (EDT)

Personal Page removal

 * The fastest way to get a page you created deleted that no-one else has worked on is to simply add Instantdelete on the page someplace. An admin will be by to delete it relatively quickly.

I was experimenting as to what did what, ended up creating this page, frustrated at TABS very MUCH !!!

URL: http://ddowiki.com/page/User:Agonshar/truglass2.css

Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 14:25, May 24, 2014 (EDT) If you are requesting that page be deleted, simply add Instantdelete to the page and it will be cleaned up. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 09:30, May 25, 2014 (EDT)

Requests for Page Protection/Unprotection

 * Any and all protection requests, whether to protect or unprotect, should be placed here. Please provide an explanation as to why this page's protection needs to be changed.

Template Quest and MissionInfoBox Update
The Quests page is stagnant, a mess, confusing, and bloated as all hell. :) What I would like to see is: The MissionInfoBox template's |FreeToPlay = yes/no field changed to |Pack= with a possible #switch for FreeToPlay |  . And then change the Quests link in the top Navbar to  and have DPL transclude the pertinent details.

Categorization is hit or miss. For Example, ToEE pt 2 is in Category:Quests, but Pt 1 isn't. The Quests page itself says that it hasn't been updated for 3 updates. This is the prime example of why we installed DPL...

Pretty Please? SysteRn (Contributions • Message) 12:42, April 28, 2015 (EDT)
 * Hi . Please feel free to propose actual code changes to those templates on T:Quest/sandbox and T:MissionInfoBox/sandbox respectively.  I'd probably start with the infobox first, but that is just me. Please email me or leave a notification here when your proposed replacements are ready and I'll look them over and implement. :) ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 14:24, April 28, 2015 (EDT)


 * In general, this sounds likes a good idea. Perhaps you can start designing your alternative Template:SysteRn\Quest and Template:SysteRn\MissionInfoBox. Then for test purposes, convert a handful quests to use your templates. Then design SysteRn\Quests as you'd like to see it, with DPL and whatnot. Demonstrate that all works flawlessly, post here your proposal - and then we switch to your version. Would this work? --Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 14:30, April 28, 2015 (EDT)
 * Yarrr... Did someone say design???  ;) -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · B · D · I · P · PM · PP · UM · UR) 14:34, April 28, 2015 (EDT)

Requests for Page or User Merges

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Requests for Promotion or Demotion

 * Please place requests for promoting any DDO Wiki user to Administrator or higher levels here. It can be self-nomination or you can nominate someone else.  All promotions will be considered against the Promotion Guidelines of the .

Agonshar Promotion

 * Attention other administrators and editors alike: I opened a nomination at DDOt:Administrators/promote/Agonshar on May 30, 2014 which has been sitting there almost a year with no second or feedback from anyone else. Agonshar accepted the nomination, and in that amount of time this editor has edited fairly regularly and now has 1,665 total edits.  Please review that nomination and comment so we can get him promoted or decline the nomination so this section can be archived.  Thanks. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 14:31, April 28, 2015 (EDT)

Template:Adpack is broken
On many quest pages that are for quests in an adventure pack, the name of the adventure pack is no longer clickable (which is how I usually find the list of quests in a pack). E.g., Foundation of Discord, Halls of Shan-To-Kor &mdash; GregJ (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:39, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * I stripped out all of the links on the individual articles for that intentionally. I'm going to have the template that creates them auto-link instead and I didn't want individual linking to cause issues with that. I was giving it a few weeks to make sure that all the pages were through the job queue before making the change to the template to prevent breakage. It's not broken, just not as you expect it. It's been long enough, I can make that change now. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:46, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * ✅ Updated the template in and have null edited all the pages using that template. The links should all be there now. :) ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:56, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * Perhaps "broken" is ambiguous. They are "intentionally not working" until the project can be finished. That's fine with me as long as they will be working again eventually. GregJ (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:09, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * They should all already be showing up now. Do you not see them (after a DDO:BYPASS of course)? ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:32, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * It's working now, thanks! GregJ (Contribs • Message • Email ) 13:57, February 4, 2016 (EST)

"No File" is showing in place of ALL the quest maps I look at (on their respective quest pages).
(about half a dozen maps) Whoever fixes this can add File:M_To_Curse_The_Sky.png as the map for that quest. &mdash; previous unsigned comment by GregJ(&thinsp;t &thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;e &thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;c&thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;d&thinsp; &#124;&thinsp;r&thinsp; &#124;&thinsp;b&thinsp; ) &#32; at 17:10, December 18, 2015 (UTC) , I still don't know what you want here. Please explain so I can try to help you if possible. Thanks. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:46, February 4, 2016 (EST)
 * I'm sure it's related to the changes I made to Quest I made this morning. I'll take a look and either roll those changes back or fix it. May have been incomplete code in the sandbox when I started making changes for the new Legendary tier of quests. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 17:35, December 18, 2015 (EST)
 * ✅ I rolled back my Quest changes for now, the cooresponding changes for MissionInfoBox apparently got lost and I'll need to redo them. Lacking the time at the moment, but I'll get back to it Tuesday morning on DDOwiki Talk w T13 (ShoeMaker). ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 17:46, December 18, 2015 (EST)
 * Some mazes appear now, but some still do not. E.g., A Study in Sable, Wrath of the Flame, Murder by Night, and others. &mdash; previous unsigned comment by GregJ(&thinsp;t &thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;e &thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;c&thinsp;&#124;&thinsp;d&thinsp; &#124;&thinsp;r&thinsp; &#124;&thinsp;b&thinsp; ) &#32; at 15:21, December 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * This is just a caching issue. It will resolve on its own. —&thinsp; Zav &thinsp; (T·C) 16:15, December 19, 2015 (EST)
 * is entirely right here. When this happens, you can force it to fix itself by either clicking on the little down arrow next to the search input box in the upper right corner of the screen and select refresh and/or click on edit, then save without making any changes (known as a null edit). DDOstream (Contribs • Message • Email ) 08:16, December 22, 2015 (EST)
 * Strange idea. A user goes to a page and there is no map. He's even told there is no map. End of story (unless this only happens to people editing due to browser caching). GregJ (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:48, January 1, 2016 (EST)
 * I still don't understand what you're asking for with this comment. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:29, January 2, 2016 (EST)
 * I didn't understand This is just a caching issue. It will resolve on its own. What is caching what? My comment meant that a user should never see "No Map" when there is a map, even if "No Map" is a temporary message. GregJ (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:14, February 12, 2016 (EST)
 * Ahh, so you don't understand what caching is exactly. It means that a new version of the page isn't pulled from the server every time someone requests the page.  This is done on the server side to keep server resource usage lower to prevent the wiki from crashing.  The only time that you'll see the results of server side caching is if a template is updated, it won't automatically update all of the pages using the template right away.  If you want a new copy of the page, you'll need to purge or null edit the page to force the link table to be updated.  This is also done client side by your browser automatically.  It does it to keep your data usage down, and you might see the results of it if you upload a new version of an existing image, it'll still show the old version, you'll need to DDO:BYPASS caching and refresh your page.  The "No Map" is only shown if no map is found.  If there is a map, and it is showing "No Map", it can't find it and something is wrong - that can usually be cleared by refreshing both server side and client side and there is nothing else that can be done about it. DDOstream (Contribs • Message • Email ) 09:11, February 16, 2016 (EST)

Layout of item pages
Since few weeks ago, the layout of item pages is a bit broken for me. I now have horizontal scroll bar for all item pages. Previously, all such pages were displayed correctly on my display resolution. Now the pictures seem to no longer fit in the window. Anyone knows what I am blabbering about or should I post a screen shot? --Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 12:23, August 21, 2015 (EDT)
 * Screenshot or it didn't happen. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 13:27, August 21, 2015 (EDT)
 * Here's a pic: . Previously, at this window width (and also much lower widths) the picture was displayed correctly; the frame in which the picture belongs was also displayed correctly, the first and second column was condensed instead. Now I need IIRC at least 1600 window width to display item pages without horizontal scroll bar. -- Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; Check ) 07:09, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * Nothing has changed with the templates or with the site CSS that I can see that would cause that. I do plan on getting back to my T:Named Item project at some point, and I'll make sure that it is fixed before that goes live. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; ) 07:33, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * SOLVED: This behavior seems to be caused by my adblocking plugin, uBlock.-- Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email ) 07:47, September 27, 2015 (EDT)
 * Previously I stated that the behavior was solved by disabling uBlock, it is not true, still happening. Revisiting this because apparently other ppl ran into this as well (User_talk:Technical_13/2015/4). --Cru121
 * Like I said on my talk page, it's on my to do list. I should be able to finish it up by the end of the year. :) ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 06:46, October 31, 2015 (EDT)
 * Didn't happen last year, but it's getting much closer to the top of my "old to-do list" which keeps getting interrupted by new stuffs. I'm about to have a new son next month, and hopefully the couple months I expect to be away from the wiki will give me a renewed vigor for this project. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:36, February 4, 2016 (EST)

Signatures
Wow, sigs are now bloated; 5-6 lines of code. Can I customize a shorter signature for me somehow? -- Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; Check ) 07:17, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * You could. User:JJMC89/Signature does. Just make sure that when you change it in your preferences, you type it like "{{subst:Cru121/signature}}" and check the "treat as wikitext" checkbox. You'll also want to fully protect that signature page. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; ) 07:31, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * I'll also note that I think it is long, and I created it. I'm debating creating a special fully protected template and doing it through transclusion instead of raw code. I'm debating the weight of the transclusion on server load though. I may will trim the actual signature and have those elements I just added be added with JavaScript instead. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; ) 07:35, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * I just created a standard template that i use with mine. Ague  Just replace my name with yours.  I still need to edit it again and add email...  -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · B · D · I · P · PM · PP · UM · UR) 14:18, August 23, 2015 (EDT)
 * Email still needs to be added to that template and I still need to write the JS to add all the other links at some point. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:46, February 4, 2016 (EST)