Talk:Short Sword

IMO the template is incomplete and should be restructured. Proposed changes:
 * - "Damage and Type" should be converted into seperate entries: "Base Damage"(x dy) and "Damage Type(piercing,slashing,bludgeoning).
 * - "Weapon Type" should be (light,one-handed,two-handed) instead of the weapon name, which is already given in the header.
 * - "Weapon Class" should be (ranged,melee,thrown).
 * - Entry needed for "Weapon Categorie"(simple,martial,exotic).
 * - Entry needed for "Weapon Size"(small,medium,large).

--Ziu 01:06, February 20, 2006 (PST)


 * Agreed, it needs some work. However, please keep in mind in the case of "Damage and Type" that everything was pulled as it is displayed in the examination screen. We don't want to make it too difficult for others to enter in weapon information. Also, only for these entries of the base, non-magical weapons will the Weapon Type be equal to the name. See for example General Dryden's Mace or the Sun Blade, where you might not know for sure just by the name what the type of weapon is. This will aid people who want to see all the morningstars in the game, for example (although given the way weapon focus is spread across a group of weapons, you could argue its usefulness is limited except for exotic weapons). Dedridd 06:12, February 20, 2006 (PST)


 * I can agree with the need for a weapon category to say if it is simple martial or exotic. If you look on the template template:itemweapon then you see that the weapon type gets incorporated automatically into a category so that if you put in short sword then all short swords will be listed if you click on that category.  Also I could see putting in one versus two handed as well and having that automatically categorize as well.  Right now we are just putting them into one handed categories manually.  Weapon size doesnt need to be in at all because all weapons are one size in ddo.  Some way of differentiating ranged versus melee versus thrown should also be in I guess but I wonder if it is really necessary as throwing daggers are a thrown weapon but a sword is a melee weapon and a crossbow is a ranged weapon.  It might be nice to have that categorized as well though.  I've made some changes to the template, see if you agree with them. -- koolkat 09:28, February 20, 2006 (PST)


 * I like it! I think it works well. I did remove some capitalization from the new fields so that they fit with the naming scheme, and I moved the new fields up near similar fields, to keep all information together that seems to go together. Depending on how much time I have tonight, I'll go through and update the existing weapon entries. The only thing we will have to watch out for in the future, I think, is whether someone enters a weapon as having a weapon type of 'longsword' vs. a 'long sword', or 'short sword' vs. 'shortsword' - otherwise they won't get categorized correctly. It's too bad that Turbine has seen fit to mix the naming convention on their weapons. Dedridd 11:37, February 20, 2006 (PST)