User talk:Shade

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Past discussion from 2011 archived to: User talk:Shade/2011


 * It violated...


 * When reverting other people's edits, give a rationale for the revert (on the article's talk page, if necessary), and be prepared to enter into an extended discussion over the edits in question. Calmly explaining your thinking to others can often result in their agreeing with you; being dogmatic or uncommunicative evokes the same behavior in others, and gets you embroiled in an edit war.
 * "being dogmatic or uncommunicative..." is the key violation on this one. You can not be much more uncommunicative than deleting a post by another user.
 * Avoid reverts whenever possible, and stay within the three-revert rule except in cases of clear vandalism. Explain reversions in the edit summary box.
 * "Avoid reverts whenever possible..." is the violation here..

Please explain what relevance my anti-reversion of a valid user comment has to do with:

Firstly, it wasn't a substantial edit, it was an attempt to correct a reversion that was made in violation of policy. Secondly, "(although a user cannot avoid administrator attention or appropriate project notices and communications by merely demanding their talk page is not posted to)", my revision of your violation was "administrator attention".

Now, I feel that our head on, in your face, back and forth unofficially-declared war needs to end at this point. So, let us set this difference aside, and focus on making this a better wiki for everyone. I feel that everyone would be best served if we can eat our feelings of disagreement, animosity, and/or hurt that we may feel towards each other, and resolve to work together from this point forth. This is the exit of this issue. I feel that any continuation of this, should be resolved in a community chat of all interested parties to be hosted by, , , or. If you feel that further discussion is required, I have no issue sending out a simple email, pm on the forum, and poi links on the people qualified as administrators talk pages. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 17:01, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * We can discuss why you feel that you have the right to dictate what pages certain rules of wikiquette are applicable or not to all administrators of the wiki in a group forum with all of the administrators, and perhaps useful clarifications of agreement can be added to expand wikiquette.

In response to "C", your re-revision states that the entire page would be archived, this is not a deletion. Therefor, until the archival is complete, and the edit is not there, it is not a re-deletion of the content. If however, the content is not there upon your creation of the archival, I would consider that a third revert revision.

In response to "D", I do not believe that any of my statements or assessments are false. That is your opinion, which you have a right to. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 17:53, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

DPS calculator
I never did see a response in regards to my request for your assistance on creating a calculator that can help a player decide if it is better to build this weapon or that weapon for the purposes of over-coming a specific (type of) mob's resistances. Are you interested? If you are not interested, I accept that. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 17:53, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Please see the associated thread on the DDO Forums. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:05, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

The battle against nopic
Your personal project User:Shade has multiple files that violate the naming policy. Would you please rename and re-upload the files according to said policy. Thank you. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 17:53, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Grandfather clause. Those were made before the naming policy were written and the Generic orb pics were created. No need to upload, rename etc as the wiki has focus orb images on wiki alrdy. When someone decides to edit those pages again they can use the many images from here Focus Orb. Even I decided to let them be. If its possible create a bot to replace Shades pics those with those from the focus orb section. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:25, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Shade has personally attacked me for pages and things that I made way before his policies were accepted (as far as I am concerned, they are still not accepted), but considering he is being so hard up to enforce them to 100% being very rude about his requests to follow the policy, I am not willing to be any lighter on him than he has been on anyone else. Bottom line, they violate the current policy, and need to be fixed.  No such thing as a grandfather clause..  At best there should be a grace period to go through and fix the things you created that are now in violation of a policy. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:31, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Two weeks is an inadequate amount of time for agreeing on any site changing policy.. Your policies are also currently under suspension under a request for review.. Please see the appropriate policy talk pages. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 19:16, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

Taking a break for now, will move the other 19 later.
When you move them, please move them to the proper name.. "Monster Information/Example" should be properly moved to "Monster information/example". The sup-page name is not a proper name, and using sentence case - as we do - it should be lowercase. Thank you. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:16, April 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Done. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:25, April 25, 2012 (EDT)

Warning 2

 * Enough. Settledown and stop posting anything towards each other. Shade dont post anything on Tech13 page. Tech13 dont post anything Shade page. Dont post anything towards each other in  any summarys or any talk pages unless it relates to the subject Title, Or I make your both hate me when your get a cooling off from the wiki for a day or three. Your both been warned. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message)


 * This is your last warning. You may be blocked from editing without further notice for 24 hrs with a 24 hr increment thereafter. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. If their any more edit wars, posting against one another in the Summary section, etc both Shade and Technical 13 will be block together. Talk it out on a general talk page. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 15:53, April 26, 2012 (EDT)


 * For the record, I have not blocked or banned anyone, that would be your friend who also attempted to block me.   As a matter of fact, if you read my post on his page, I asked him what he thinks gives him the right to block EITHER of us.  I've also over the last few days, asked  and  on the forums for you to have turbine forum moderator status for promotion and further advancement of the wiki.  I've hidden no bans.  I've impersonated no-one,  as more than one person has told you is a joke/mascot account that I have no issue setting a password that I can email to all of the administrators to promote the site.  No user is spammed with anything... The policies are under review and revamping to be perfectly clear, and ALL administrators have the rights to make edits and changes.  So, the "| Move (policy review expiring Tuesday, July 24, 2012) |" is a reminder to check the policy before moving anything (and therefore a potential violation of the naming policy).  I believe that any administrator placed on the list for demotion should have their rights suspended, and other than  question of the original validity of the procedure, no one has objected or made any attempt to reinstate your privileges, which in of itself says something in my opinion. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; Message) 20:07, April 26, 2012 (EDT)