Talk:Village pump

This is a page for random discussions and c***. Think 'Ranters lounge' and 'General chat' and 'Off-topic' from most popular forums, combined. Will be archived and cleared mercilessly, so keep your conversation active if you want to keep it un-archived.

Where are you from?
Lets get a community going here, people! Where are you from? Just keep replies on the same indent for stuff like this, as you're all technically replying to me (-:
 * Anchorage, Alaska - da shizz, bayyy-beeee!

New stuff
Ok, I've had about half these features live on my local wiki for a while, been trying to get them all ready before presentation. The last hangup has been the verification system - it works fine locally, but I can't make it integrate properly into the slightly strange site substitution we use here on the actual network. Anyway, I gave up for now, and just brought most everything I had live. My personal favorite isn't even listed on the front page there - see the bottom of any page for the new contribution attributions - once google crawls our site again, try googling your real name. More interesting results than usual, no? Anyway, another really cool one is the AJAX preview - try it when your replying to this post hehe. The rest are still too cool for words, which is why I am going to stop typing said words, press that awesome preview button just so I can see it in action one more time before bed, and go there.


 * To be honest, I don't understand half of what you're talking about. But it sounds great :D Tihocan 14:58, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * You'll see as time goes on - I am most proud of the AJAX previewing - just reply to this and hit 'Show preview' instead of 'Save page' - you'll see immediately what I mean. {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:59, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * Aaah, I think I see now. Actually, I had not noticed it immediately, my bad. Preview seems instant now. Cool :) Tihocan 11:10, March 21, 2006 (EST)


 * Peerless, I think the contributions thing is an interesting idea, but I prefer to keep my gaming persona separate from my real life, and therefore prefer anonymity. Based on the amount of anonymous edits we get here, I don't think I'm alone in this (granted there's other reasons why folks might not register here before editing). What would you think about using account names (but not anonymous IP addresses) if the real name info is blank? Dedridd 15:21, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * Yes, that is how it works. Just delete the Real Name field in the preferences to show username instead. I am suprised, however - do you not want attribution for your hard work and contributions? I sure do (-: {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:59, March 20, 2006 (EST)}}


 * Sure - game stuff under my gaming persona, and work stuff under my professional persona. Dedridd 08:52, March 21, 2006 (EST)
 * I meant under your real name lol - whatever, up to you, thanks to being able to switch it off (-: {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:03, March 21, 2006 (EST)}}


 * Unfortunately because of the AJAX previewing, you can't use 'Show preview' to test that the categories are set up right on a page before saving. Is there a way around this? I'm sure it's a side-effect of not posting back to show the changes in the preview, since the category entries seem to be a parsing thing in the wiki codebase, but this may lead to a lot more revisions of each page to get the categories right - or people may not even notice that they got them wrong. I can't think of a good middle-ground to suggest at this point, but I'm hoping you'll have an idea of how to get around this. Dedridd 09:18, March 21, 2006 (EST)


 * Well, for now you can switch off javascript to do it... hmmm I'll need to think on this. What exactly isn't showing up right? If you mean the box showing what categories the page is in; that should be - wow your right it doesn't show up. Weird. I guess I didn't expect anybody to need to preview that - if you put it in category A, then it's in category A... I'm confused how that could be hard; but I'll work on integrating it. It may be really hard, as I already wrapped up the entire AJAX preview work and integrated it... {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:03, March 21, 2006 (EST)}}


 * For people familiar with our naming conventions, they'll probably get the category name correct on the first try. Those that aren't might use a singular form of a page name, however. And while a simple typo or misspelling (such as Category:Guild) won't keep it from showing up in the category box, if it is marked as a non-existing page, then you know you probably messed up the category link somehow. I've found this very helpful when categorizing pages. Dedridd 16:18, March 21, 2006 (EST)


 * I see... d***it I have too many projects going. I need a tech team to yell at and throw projects to!!! This is driving me crazy. {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 04:26, March 22, 2006 (EST)}}


 * I don't think it's a high priority problem, but I wanted to make you aware of it. Dedridd 08:20, March 22, 2006 (EST)

Advertising tone
As you probably know, there are some people out there who do not like much the Wiki. The main reason being because of the potentially wrong information that can be found here. If we want to convince more people to come visit us, we must advertise it. However, I also think we must do so without sounding too pretentious, since we know very well that the Wiki is not perfect. I sincerely think that a post like this one does more harm than good to the Wiki: it makes us sound like we think everyone else is cr*p. I find the signature to be a bit too much too. Any thoughts on this matter? Tihocan 10:28, March 23, 2006 (EST)
 * I am far from having a tongue of silver - so, if you like, you can post for us lol - I barely have time to any; just tying to GET THE NAME OUT THERE. I post there, and am STILL surprised by people who don't know about the site - it's like OMG. How is that possible? But I guess we aren't as all-known as I think we are - good god though, 10,000 hits MINIMUM every day? Wow. Anyway - tihocan, get on MSN and I'll drop you the password to the EnterWiki admin account.
 * No no, I'm not really a good advertiser, I think it's good that you're on the forums too to advertise the site. It's just that I think you should be careful, when posting, to stay humble in order not to hurt other people's feelings. Even though I haven't reallly checked out the other fansites yet, I do believe we are the best in the kind of information we offer, but if you post on the forums saying "we are the best website", you can be sure some people are not even going to bother because that sounds like someone desperate to get some visitors. Tihocan 15:38, March 23, 2006 (EST)

Images
I finally fixed the image system. Currently, you can upload DDO-specific images at Special:Upload, and global images at Special:Upload - in the process, I found two stranded iamges. Anybody know who these belong to? Image:ScreenShot00001.jpg, Image:Equipment_slots.jpg? Also, if anything breaks or seems weird PLEASE let me know - if I have to change something on this system, it is TONS of work, exponentially more for practically every image that is uploaded.


 * The second one, Equipment_slots.jpg is mine, and it's used on the Slot page. I had to re-upload it after the server move, so maybe it's the older version? Not sure, but when I follow your image link it all works and Slot is listed at the bottom of the page as a 'used by' link. No clue about the first image. Dedridd 15:06, March 23, 2006 (EST)


 * Don't know about these images. But images on the Classes page seem to be broken (to me at least). Tihocan 15:32, March 23, 2006 (EST)


 * Try touching it.


 * Do you mean reload the page? Does not work under Firefox (Linux). Tihocan 16:34, March 23, 2006 (EST)


 * Touch (v): To edit a page and save without making any changes, to force it to reload all info from the database.