Talk:Monsters

Past discussion from 2006 archived to: Talk:Monsters/Archive_2006

Subrace
Isn't subrace the proper spelling and one word. This is I have seen it written almost everywhere and not as sub-race, even d&d books and articles use wording "subrace". Just like subtype is one word. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 12:47, March 2, 2013 (EST)


 * From a quick google search, it seems to me that the two words, sub-race and subrace can be used interchangeably. It may be that subrace is the more common usage, but by no means is sub-race incorrect. Hyphens are used to combine two separate words to form a compound word, but they are also commonly used with some prefixes (like sub-), see link. It seems that the use of hyphens in some cases is just a matter of preference rather than rule. That said, I really could care less if people on this wiki want to change sub-race to subrace as a rule. I simply chose a word that made sense to me and ran with it. Not being at all familiar with PnP, I was not aware of any preference for the word subrace there. You'll really have to talk to Tech about this if you want it changed though, since sub-race is now built into the monster infobox template.

I hope you don't mind that I moved your post to the talk page, but I thought it was more appropriate here than on a well traveled content page. I certainly meant no offense by moving it, let me know if I have broken wikiquette here. Susalona (Contributions &bull; Message) 15:10, March 12, 2013 (EDT)
 * No one ever poked me about this, I guess it wasn't that important? For the record, my en-us spell-checker marks subrace as wrong and sub-race as correct.  That is the most likely reason for the hyphenated version being used. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 18:36, February 12, 2014 (EST)

Fortification
Would it be useful to add a column indicating whether the type is susceptible to critical hits? Thearcher (Contributions • Message) 09:22, August 30, 2013 (EDT)


 * The place for that info would be on the race/sub-race special qualities section. Since U14, however, immunity to sneak attack damage and fortification are two separete conditions on monster stats. When in doubt, just add it as fortification. Nibelung (Contributions • Message) 14:45, August 31, 2013 (EDT)

Sub-race criteria
I've read about the inception of monster classification by sub-race here (happened before I started editing), but I'm not sure about the following issue.

What are the criteria for defining a sub-race?

Case in point: I believe there should be a sub-race category for Firebrand gnolls. Many I recognize by their name ("Firebrand "). Others I recognize because they have the same fur pattern as Firebrands. Others because they are surrounded by Firebrands. Others yet because they dwell in the Firebrand Mines.

In other words, I'm partially relying on my own editor's judgment (which seems like a good starting point).

Am I missing anything else? Aldyron (Contributions • Message) 16:20, February 12, 2014 (EST)


 * I suggest leaving a Talk:Monsters#Sub-race criteria on 's and 's (I think Nib has had quite a bit to do with monster pages) talk pages. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 18:49, February 12, 2014 (EST)


 * Update for future reference: done.

Results are in Firebrand Gnoll sub-race.

While researching that, I also found out enough to compile Windlasher Gnoll sub-race and (this last one not yet written down on its own page, I took a break to write this post).

Now I really know how must feel (including the scars and burns). :-)) Aldyron (Contributions • Message) 15:58, April 20, 2014 (EDT)