User talk:Yoko5000/2007

Spoilers
Hey dude, check the PPoI at the top of the page, let me know what you think about it! - Borror0 23:28, December 16, 2007 (EST)


 * that hover thing dont work on this comp (winxp/ie6, at my office) at all. will see whats the point at my home (win2k/firefox2) later - yoko5000 23:41, December 16, 2007 (EST)


 * Mind taking a SS of what it does on IE 6? -Borror0 23:52, December 16, 2007 (EST)


 * just dose nothin like this - yoko5000 23:41, December 16, 2007 (EST)
 * Arg... that might be very problematic, since they'd get no access to the information. No one should have IE 6, ever. It a pain and has even more problem than IE 7, sadly, it's there and we have to deal with in... So, the question is... should we use it? I'm sort of thinking no.. that is loosing too much inforamtion... -Borror0 08:19, December 17, 2007 (EST)
 * yea it sucks but my vote is no too. - yoko5000 21:41, December 17, 2007 (EST)

DDOJP
I am hearing rumors that DDO Japan is having issues, that players fear the servers will get closed like what happened to DDO China. Have you heard of that and if yes do you know what's happening exactly? --Borror0 08:35, May 12, 2009 (EDT)
 * Apparently this contains some info on the matter, if you don't mind helping. --Borror0 09:02, May 12, 2009 (EDT)

about time to learn the language eh? uh yea, among people over there, it is believed that DDO japan is going to be closed in this September. there are good reasons for it. its a shame tho, if m9 is delayed further more, they wont see it. will do some research and translation later for you, but for now, try goggle translate this part from the pdf


 * 10). 米国Turbine,Inc.との販売サービス契約(DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICES AGREEMENT)について
 * 平成16年12月27日に米国Turbine,Inc.と「ダンジョンズ＆ドラゴンズ・オンライン™ ストームリーチ™ 」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売の契約を締結しております. この契約は平成16年12月27日より平成20年12月27日が契約期間となっております. また、平成18年8月31日に同米国法人と「ロード・オブ・ザ・リングス・オンライン　アングマールの影」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売等を締結しております. この契約は正式サービス開始より４年間が契約期間となっております.
 * しかし、いずれの契約も双方の合意をもって自動延長もしくは契約期間内での中途解約を認めるとあり、オンラインゲーム事業が想定した会員数に達しなかった場合であっても、双方の合意がなければ契約期間内での中途解約ができず、契約終了日までサービスの提供を継続しなければならない可能性があります. そのため、オンラインゲーム事業を継続するための運営費等が計上され業績に影響を及ぼす可能性があります.

and this one.


 * 1． 特別損失の発生について
 * 平成20年3月期につきまして、米国Turbine,Inc.との販売サービス契約(DISTRIBUTION　AND SERVICES AGREEMENT)の修正に伴う違約金が発生するため、特別損失が約272百万円(2,520千ドル相当額)発生いたします.


 * （背景）
 * 当社は平成17年12月27日に米国Turbine,Inc.と「ダンジョンズ＆ドラゴンズ・オンライン™ ストームリーチ™ 」日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売および運用等に関する契約を締結しております. また、平成18年8月31日に同米国法人と「ロード・オブ・ザ・リングス・オンライン™ アングマールの影™ 」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売および運用等に関する契約を締結しております. 当該契約については双方の合意をもって自動延長もしくは契約期間内での中途解約を認めるとあり、当社において想定した会員数に達しなかった場合であっても、双方の合意がなければ契約期間内での中途解約ができず、契約終了日までサービスの提供を継続しなければならないため、ゲームコンテンツ事業を継続するための運営費等を計上しております.
 * しかしながら、ゲームコンテンツ事業が想定した会員数に達していない事を鑑み、販売および運用等の期間を短縮する事により事業継続の判断時期を早め、固定的なロイヤリティ支払いを撤廃する事により月々の運営コストを軽減化する事が適当であるとの判断に至ったため、米国Turbine,Inc.社に違約金を支払う事によって、当該販売サービス契約の販売および運用等の期間を2009年9月までの契約期間等に変更した契約に修正することといたしました.

--yoko5000 11:44, May 12, 2009 (EDT)

okay, rough translation... the 1st one explains sales contract Sakura Internet and Turbine originally had, and Sakura's potential risk within;


 * On December 27 2004, we concluded a sales contract for gaming software, "Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach", with United States Turbine, Inc. In this contract, from December 27 2004 to December 27 2008 was duration of policy.


 * Moreover, sales contract for gaming software, "Lord of the Rings Online: Shadow of Angmar" were concluded on August 31, 2006. Duration of policy in this contract was, 4 years from beginning of formal service.


 * However, each contract states automatic extension or dissolution in duration of policy is only admitted within mutual agreement, thus, there is a possibility that we cannot make the dissolution and have to continue the service until the contract end-date, even if it does not reach the number of customers that our online game business have assumed.


 * Therefore, the management expense and such to continue the online game business has a possibility to impact our achievement.

then the 2nd says Sakura Internet paid some cash to basically get rid of the contract and shorten the duration.
 * 1. About the generation of the extraordinary expense
 * In the period of March, 2008, extraordinary expense will be generated for about 272 million yen (2.52 million dollar equivalent value), because of the penalty related to correction of sales/service contract (DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICES AGREEMENT) with United States Turbine,Inc.


 * (Background)
 * blah blah blah.. basically saying same thing above


 * However, considering the fact our game contents business didn't reach the number of customers we have assumed, we have reached to a decision that it is suitable to bring forward the time to judge business continuance, by shortening period of sales, operation and such, and reducing the management cost per month, by abolishing fixed royalty payment. Thus we decided to pay penalty to United States Turbine, Inc. and corrected the contract to have changed period of sales and operation until September, 2009.

Sakura Internet fell in temporal insolvency for these online game-related expenses while their main bussiness - internet server hosting was going well. CEO at the time, who was known for being a MMO-fan (i think he was EQ player) had to step down because of this.

While there is nothing announced about future of their online game business yet, its not logical to think they will renew contract with Turbine and continue the business. Stock holders wont simply let them, you know.

Its just a shame, there seemed to be honest customer service, Sakura did everything they could, frequent GM events, offering blog space for the community, heck, they even made the game free to play (until players hit level 5 or something), however, DDO and LotR just didnt cut in Japanese market.

--yoko5000 03:47, May 20, 2009 (EDT) (sry for slow update)

$1 page
That page is what people get to when they click the "Create this article" link on the search page because it seems that the search parameter isn't getting loaded into that link. --JonTheMon 12:13, November 2, 2009 (EST)
 * good to know, thank you! i protected the page. --yoko5000 22:26, November 2, 2009 (EST)