Template talk:Ghostly

Perhaps this template would be better served in Template:Concealment with levels of concealment for Blurry & Ghostly & the other one (there is a third one, right?) -- ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 22:48, July 24, 2012 (EDT)


 * Agreed Template:Concealment would be better. Ghostly, dusk, blurry, displacement would be Concealment. So that be 4 Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 23:30, July 24, 2012 (EDT)




 * Dusk
 * Equipping this item engulfs you in twilight. Enemies have a 10% chance to miss due to Concealment.
 * Ghostly
 * This property makes the wielder's melee attacks able to hit Incorporeal targets. Additionally, enemies suffer a 10% miss chance against the wielder due to incorporeality. The wielder also gains +5 enhancement bonus to Hide and Move Silently skills (stacks with competence bonus).
 * Smoke Screen
 * You are surrounded by wisps of concealing smoke, giving opponents a 20% concealment chance to miss you.
 * Blurry
 * Items with this property make the wearer's outline become blurred. Enemies have a 20% Concealment miss chance.

Am I missing any? Talking about item effects here... not spells... ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 23:46, July 24, 2012 (EDT)


 * Template:Miss Chance would be more fit. The word "concealment" doesn't cover everything, blurry/dusk/smoke screen provide a concealment bonus but ghostly provides an incorporeal bonus and the two bonuses stack.

by Mjoll (Contributions &bull; Message) 08:35, July 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Template:Miss Chance would be fine with me.

ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 09:08, July 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * prefer Template:Concealment or Template:Conceal the term describes the effects better even if one does not use the concealment it the description. Miss chance seems to broad and can cover many other other things. Or just convert ghostly who wouldn't remember remember Template:Ghostly. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 13:19, July 25, 2012 (EDT)

I don't really care what we call it, I'll make a button for it like all the rest in the editing tools section at the bottom when we decide, so remembering what the template is called or how to use it shouldn't be an issue. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 17:28, July 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * I think keeping Ghostly isolated is fine (since it's not a concealment bonus anymore), and the Template:Concealment could be used for dusk/blurry/smoke screen. It's not so different from Template:Deathblock or Template:Maiming - a single template with plain pop-up description. Nibelung (Contributions &bull; Message) 18:41, July 25, 2012 (EDT)


 * Having to many templates which serve the same purpose adds to the Post-expand and Template argument size which can can beak a page and/or increase load times of a page. Espically on the pages that have a large list. Bladedge (Contributions &bull; Message) 00:27, July 26, 2012 (EDT)