DDO wiki:Administrators' noticeboard/Archives/2015

Spoilers
I notice that all throughout the wiki we see SPOILERS everywhere in bold, caps, italics and so forth, now I understand entirely that editors are trying to alert others reading the wiki that there is information about to be read that may lead to knowledge prior to reading. BUT I'm raising this topic for the following reason (and it may seem a poor reason to some but here it is):

The entire content of DDOwiki is a spoiler, why do we have these alerts throughout when those reading are fully aware they at any point could be about to read something they did not know - that is why they are here firstly and throughout their experiece of DDOwiki over time, its always spoiler material, everything here is; please don't just shoot me down - I like to rock the status quo and see where it goes (valid arguement of course required), I'm wondering what others thoughts are on this and the reasoning behind it.

Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 20:50, May 12, 2014 (EDT)

T:Power and Melee/Ranged Power
Since we already have a T:Power for spell points from power effect, and we have a spellpower template for spellpower, I'm thinking we should group melee and ranged power into T:DmgPower. Thoughts or opinions? ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 11:24, July 16, 2015 (EDT)
 * Not that I'd use it so much, but I think it's more intuitive if you just have them in separate templates. Otherwise you'd have to add a switch in. Someone who doesn't use the template much would end up having to look it up. --Thalone 18:36, July 16, 2015 (EDT)
 * It's coded (can be moved) and there is no switch. It's use is simple, Ranged or Melee. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 19:08, July 16, 2015 (EDT)

Shoe and the Home Screen
What are you trying to do? I see double now on the update preview boxes. I'm not going to fix it bc I know you're in the middle of whatever you're trying to do. Let me know if you need any help. -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · B · D · I · P · PM · PP · UM · UR) 12:33, July 29, 2015 (EDT)
 * Yeah, I'll fix that. Working on making all of the updates available on the main page in a overflow area that scrolls from newest to oldest. I have a fair portion of it working, just distracted... ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 12:46, July 29, 2015 (EDT)

User:Cordovan -- advanced permissions
I've recently found some things that concern me on the wiki, and I'd like to get some community feedback on giving Cordovan the ability to protect/delete/oversight things that may violate existing NDAs and/or invade on the privacy / put at risk living persons. I'd personally monitor administrative actions to make sure things are on the up and up (I've no reason whatsoever to expect anything other than), but would like them to have the ability to make such changes immediately if there is even a remote chance of there being a potential issue. We can always discuss changes after and revert if needed. I intend to give him these permissions if he is interested in them, until there is a consensus for him to have or an objection to him having. I confirmed that this user is the real Cordovan back when the account was first made, if there is any question about that. Feel free to email me any direct concerns that you don't want public here. I look forward to feedback from community members. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 13:29, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * While I think it's a good idea for grant Cordovan higher rights based solely on his position at Turbine, I feel that the DDO Wiki (a fan run site) shouldn't have official Turbine employees as administrators (you know I love ya Jerry!). I know that several devs frequent the site and some even perform edits periodically, I just don't think it's the place of a Turbine employee to police up a fan site in that manner.  Perhaps a good alternative solution would be to have a trusted member of each year's Players Council be promoted to admin during their tenure to help police up any potential NDA violations. Quite frankly, who else is going to know if the NDA has been violated.  That would make much more sense to me.  I know that this year, we have several wiki admins involved in the PC, but the same may not be true in future councils.  Just food for thought.  Thoughts? -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · B · D · I · P · PM · PP · UM · UR) 13:49, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * I guess I'm more of a mindset that I'd rather them be able to nuke and discuss than leave potentially libellous content/information on wiki were it can do harm until they can find someone that has a moment to take care of it. As it currently stands, Jerry knows he could email me or get in touch with me fairly quickly via various methods and I would nuke something immediately then open a discussion for it.  I just don't see why he should have to, he already indicated back in a May, 2013 email where he replied to me "If it’s all the same to you, I’d rather have the same writing permissions as everyone else, rather than be a super user, as I know enough Wiki to get things done, but not enough that I wouldn’t be afraid of messing something up as a super. Thanks!" and then again today in a PM "I've always felt that one of the Wiki's strongest assets was its divestiture from the corporate structure, so the fewer exceptional permissions I have the better. I prefer to be hands-off for the most part, and would not be interested in deleting things from the Wiki. Every now and then I've made edits, but that's almost always because I have access to something that is otherwise not available (pics of special event items from the past, for example.)"
 * That said, I guess this is kind of a moot point since he doesn't want the ability. Jerry, like I said above, if there is something - feel free to email me or message me on FB or send me a text message on my phone and I'll take care of it as soon as reasonably possible. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 14:13, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * I think Cordo has enough to do on the forums. Also, I don't recall any stuff that would require policing in the past years. That said, if he wants/needs admin rights, I couldn't care less. However, I don't think wiki admins in general should worry about PC NDAs. If I see an interesting leak on the Vault, I don't mind putting it on the wiki (within reason)--Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 14:10, June 22, 2015 (EDT).
 * There have been a couple minor leaks, but few have known about them as they have typically gotten dealt with quickly and without fuss or discussion. Perhaps I'm being an overzealous worry wart, but I'm an err on the side of caution type of guy with this as I want the wiki's communication and relationship with the game itself to be strong. :) ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 14:13, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * I'm with Cru on this, I dont want wiki to be a place NDA-violation stuff get posted first (uhh DDOwikileaks do we call it?) but when there had been a leak and such on some other places then I think we shouldn't hide the fact. Also, I'm against giving him such right. I dont wanna see him deleting stuff left and right here in the same manner as he cube threads on the official forums. No matter who that is, one must earn it by contributing. Wiki should remain independent. --yoko5000 (Contributions • Message) 05:25, June 27, 2015 (EDT)
 * I think this topic is clear, Cordovan is an employee of Turbine, this website is a fansite only, I would certainly not want to be witness to information dissapearing because it violates any NDA's at Turbine and Cordovan would by default have to follow those NDA's if he is in contact with any information which violates it, we should not be placing him in that position nor should he be in that positon because of the repurcussions. Agonshar (Contributions • Message) | My projects  |  My ToDo list  |  My Sandbox  |  My Links  15:54, August 30, 2015 (EDT)