Item talk:+5 Heirloom Spelltouched Dart

Isn't this just a random generated weapon? The '+5' doesn't look like it's a named item. Maybe another new item enchantment? --PCrazee (Contributions &bull; Message) 03:55, July 24, 2012 (EDT)


 * The gold border declares this as a named loot item no different than the +# Eternal Mabar wands, +1 Vorpal Sickle of Haggling, +2 Intimidating Dagger of Paralyzing Acid, or the Winter Festival wand of frost....

ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 08:15, July 24, 2012 (EDT)

Re: Tech... +5 Heirloom Spelltouched Shuriken, ML 20, 3 properties, purple border -> http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4592963. Randomly generated item, just like the dart on this page, so the dart is not an unique item. The purple border denotes that the item is lvl 20+ and/or that it is randomly generated with special creation rules. by Mjoll (Contributions &bull; Message) 06:38, August 27, 2012 (EDT)


 * The outside gold border is what defines this as a named item... NOT the purple 20+ item icon border.

ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 07:22, August 27, 2012 (EDT)


 * Ah THAT border... Oh well Turbine chose gold border over silver but the fact remains that for 1000 ES challenge ingredients you can get another heirloom spelltouched dart with a different set of properties, as detailed here: []. by Mjoll (Contributions &bull; Message) 10:45, August 27, 2012 (EDT)


 * I'm not seeing that, all I am seeing from what you linked is:


 * ML24 throwers also have the same 4 single enchantments, but in addition have the secret effect "Spellplague" which can do a lot of random effects:
 * Every hit: Either a random 1d6 hp damage type or stat damage type
 * 1-2% proc: Any rare shroud damage proc type
 * Can additionally proc a huge variety of effects, at a low rate
 * Sub-ML24 versions generally lose additional enchantments, and thus very closely resemble lootgen items, though the throwers retain there spellplague effect.

I see "have the same 4 single enchantments" and "in addition have the secret effect "Spellplague""... the fact that "Spellplague" is somewhat like prismatic ray/spray and the chaos orbs doesn't change that it is a singe effect... I also see "Sub-ML24 versions generally lose additional enchantments, and thus very closely resemble lootgen items, though the throwers retain there spellplague effect." with the important word being "resemble", which means to me they are not really random loot. ShoeMaker (Contributions &bull; ) 10:57, August 27, 2012 (EDT)


 * "The same 4 single enchantments" are picked from 4 pools of random enchantments (groups A, B, C and D). 'Resemble' is not that important, it's a word chosen by the person that wrote that page. Using the same logic they also resemble named items which means they are not really named items. More important is how many combinations are possible for each item which I suspect are in the hundreds.

They are different from true random items (set ML, set name, set spellplague effect), different from true named items (3-4 random effects) and they are much closer to the former than to the later category. If anything one could make a page for each cormyrian item category (melee, bows, throwing, armor, shields}, explain how they are created and use the existing pic as an example rather than choosing a random one and declaring it unique. by Mjoll (Contributions &bull; Message) 11:47, August 27, 2012 (EDT)


 * This is not a named item. It should be deleted.&thinsp;&mdash;&thinsp;Zav&thinsp; (C&middot;T&middot;E) 20:44, July 20, 2014 (EDT)


 * Perhaps we can simply keep it as an example of what is available from the challenges? Modify location, link it from the challenge loot page, etc. --Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 02:26, July 21, 2014 (EDT)


 * After some digging Spelltouched equals Spellplague (Old name?), which page was never finish. Keep image move image to Spellplague rename page to Spelltouch? Delete item page. Some more Info look for Feather_of_Sun posts  Bladedge (Contributions • Message) 15:57, July 21, 2014 (EDT)