DDO information project/Magic

DDO numbers vs. PnP numbers
Most of the numerical effects in the Wiki, especially for spells, are taken from their PnP counterpart. When possible, numbers are specially formatted to indicate whether or not they have been verified in DDO: If you cannot see the difference between the two numbers above (or if the verified number is in normal font), then it means you must edit the page to know whether a number has been verified in DDO (note that we may experiment with different formattings in the future).
 * - verified number
 * - PnP number, unverified in DDO

Note to contributors: if you edit this page, you'll notice that verified DDO numbers must be written, while PnP numbers must be written. Please try to keep this convention across the whole site as much as you can. Not only this allows us to play at will with the formatting (font, color, ...) of numbers, but it is also a way to know which numbers have been verified and which need being investigated. If you are unsure about a number even if it does not come from the PnP version, just don't put any template formatting on it.

The DDO numbers project
Turbine has not released the detailed numerical effects of spells, as well as a few other feats or enhancements. One major goal is to find them out by ourselves. I suggest the following: try to use a spell as many times as you think necessary, each time writing down any numerical effect you can measure (e.g. the damage, the duration, etc.). Then come back to this very same page and copy your numbers here, with any relevant information that would be necessary to interpret them. Once we have enough numbers, we can deduce the exact formulas used by Turbine. For offensive spells, I suggest to stick to the normal difficulty and to standard monsters, in order to make comparisons easier. For distances, see the talk page of this topic for a suggestion I made earlier. Among the relevant information related to a spell's effect, don't forget to mention for instance your casting ability, your potential enhancements that may change the results, etc.

Just add below a new subsection for each spell / feat / etc, in alphabetical order. Don't worry if you cannot find out how to interpret the results, all we need is raw data.

Bless
Current belief: +1/level attack bonus (max ?), 1 min/level, need to figure out other bonuses


 * Cleric L1, Wis 14: +1 attack bonus, 1 min
 * Cleric L2, Wis 14: +2 attack bonus, 2 min

Cure light wounds
Current belief: 1d6 + 2 + 1/level (max +?), needs experiments at higher levels to find the max bonus (currently verified up to L3), needs more experiments as damage spell to assess its efficiency against undead, needs experiment with Wis different than 14 to make sure it makes no difference

Analysis: 4(0.16) 6(0.16) 7(0.18) 8(0.14) 9(0.22) 10(0.13) compared to expected: 4(0.17) 6(0.17) 7(0.17) 8(0.17) 9(0.17) 10(0.16) => hypothesis confirmed Cleric L1, Wis 14, damage on skeleton in newbie area: 2,3,6,5
 * Cleric L1, Wis 14 on non warforged: 9,7,7,5,8,9,9,6,8,5,7,9,9,6,8,9,7
 * Same with devotion 1: 7,7,6,9,9,6,6,8,6,8,9,9,8,8,6,7,4,4,7,8,9,4,9,6,7,9,9,9,8,9,7,10,7,8,10,10,10,4,8,8,7,9,9,7,4,10,7, 4,6,4,9,9,9,6,6,8,10,10,7,7,4,6,10,9,10,9,8,6,6,9,4,6,6,7,8,7,7,9,4,4,4,10,10,9,7,8,9,7,6,6,10,4,8,4,10,4,4
 * Same on warforged: 6,3,4,4,5,5
 * Did further experiments at L2 and L3 that confirmed the above formula

Divine vitality

 * DV I, Cleric L1, Wis 14, Cha 16: 21,16,18,20,17,19,15,16,18,20,16,19,17,18,20, 16,15,20,21,14,18,18,18,16,18,17,18,17,20,19,18,18,20,16,16,16,16,16,16,16,15,18


 * DV I, Cleric L2, Wis 14, Cha 16: 18,18,16,19,17,14,18,16,15,17,14, 16,17,17,22,15,18,18,18,20,18,15,17,18,16, 14,20,16,19,22,17,14,16,18,13, 19,18,19,20,19,16,17


 * DV I, Cleric L3, Wis 14, Cha 16: 15,15,18,18,17,20,16,18,20,17,17,15,20,19,19

Turn undead
Current belief: the max HD affected seems to be given by the same table as at the d20 srd. I'm not sure about what the turning damage means (2d6 + your cleric level + your Charisma modifier as per 3.5e, should be only 1d6 in DDO after the 4.5 nerf). Duration of stun should also be timed.


 * Cleric L1, Cha 16. Range 1.43s. Roll -> HD: 5->0, 10->2, 15->3, 20->5
 * cleric L2, Cha 12. 16 ->4 HD
 * Cleric L3, Cha 16. 2 -> 1HD