User talk:Joenuts

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Diagnostics

 * Talked a few months ago about overhauling existing category structure see DDO wiki talk:Category policy, the -items- root category was very cluttered, a lot of duplication, not very organized. I'm now working on cleaning it up.
 * Basically, DDO Library.Items is going to be as close as possible a clone of AH structure. Item pages should only exist in one easily organized (sub)category in that branch. DDO Library.Item groups will contain items that have been grouped together that have common properties.
 * Once item category structure is straightened out / made more consistent, the item templates can be fine tuned to place items in appropriate categories.
 * Also, post template is likely going to get phased out in favor of a much more common wiki format of just indenting lines.
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 21:56, September 11, 2013 (EDT)
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 21:56, September 11, 2013 (EDT)

You've been nominated for clown of the year!
Hey Joe, I've nominated you for clown of the year should you choose to accept! ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 17:39, January 2, 2014 (EST)

Lore Legacy Items

 * Solution : All pages that use the new Lore template will need to have image updated, and ultimately the page updated to use spelllore template with correct details. ( see : http://ddowiki.com/page/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Lore )
 * Once no pages reference that template, it can be deprecated, the created categories should have no pages so they can get deleted, etc.
 * In the current time, I think the broken links were very unsightly, and now even though information is a bit dated, it's not broken looking.
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 16:17, January 3, 2014 (EST)
 * If an indicator is required to notify viewers that information is out dated, perhaps I can add the Template:Update tag to each of those pages, and also modify the Template:Lore to show a tag that the that line of information needs to be updated. What do you think about that?
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 16:26, January 3, 2014 (EST)


 * If the pic needs to be updated, wouldnt the tag be preferred?
 * How is a visitor to know that the page requires a picture update if the only indicator is that the page is in a hidden category ( was very difficult for me to find, category doesnt even show up when i search for "info-box pic" )
 * I didnt realize that the only thing those pages needed was to correct the order of the parameters ( simple fix ), and the reason they were left out of order was to indicate that the picture needed to be updated ( another, simple fix ).
 * I'll update pages accordingly, adding them to the hidden "pic needed" category, although my opinion is that if the page picture is out of date, that warrants the update tag for the page.
 * Perhaps you could explain to me what exactly was wrong with the update I did on the iconic starter gear?
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 17:10, January 3, 2014 (EST)


 * I've started a centralized discussion for this topic so it will be easier to discuss on Talk:Spelllore templates and updating usage. Thanks ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 17:25, January 3, 2014 (EST)


 * I consider "rewards" loosely items that can be selected from an NPC as rewards for some completion ( quest / chain / 3rd series 20th series ). And with the advent of a category getting created for starter gear (not my choice, there were two already created ), I thought it fit more in the [starter] rewards than [starter] loot ( which I consider loot to be items pulled from chests ).
 * There was no existing distinction of one iconic's gear versus another iconic's gear as far as the categories went.
 * All I did was update all the pages that were putting the items in to [starter] loot, and update them to put in [starter] rewards.
 * I'm sorry you feel that me consolidating the categories for common gear is "messing with changes you've been working on for the last 5 months', I just want to clean up all the broken parts of the wiki now that I have some more time available to do so.
 * If you have an idea of how the starter gear categories should be structured, I'm all for that, I'm not a fan of lumping them in to rewards. Something like Item groups->Iconic Starter items-> ( Purple Dragon Knight starter items / Sun Elf starter items / Shadar-kai starter items ) would make sense to me.
 * If you're on board with that, then removing the quest "Advance to level 15" from the page and maybe manually adding the categories until the template can be modified to compensate may need to happen.
 * Let me know what you think about that.
 * Joenuts (Contributions • &uArr; top &uArr;) 17:40, January 3, 2014 (EST)