Talk:Spot

We should try to clarify whether the Spot skill or the Listen skill is more important for detecting sneaking enemies. Since sneak is a combination of both the following question should be answered: Is it necessary to counter both checks (Hide and Move Silently) of a sneaking person to detect him, or is one successful check sufficient?

This is important, because the Spot skill seems to be a lot more useful than the Listen skill. Maybe the Spot skill is for detecting traps and secret doors only?

IMO we should make a test with a character with only ranks in Spot and one wih only ranks in Listen. The quest "A Matter of Protection" would be good for a test, because it is short and has many sneaking enemies.--Ziu 16:45, February 24, 2006 (EST)


 * Good idea :) -- Tihocan 17:11, February 24, 2006 (EST)


 * How this works is as follows. Spot is used to detect doors, traps, trap boxes, and invis enemies. Listen assists in the noticing (not related to spot) of invisible enemies. So adding a Bonus to the detect invis part of Spot only.
 * Sneaking is totally differant then these to and use move silently as a big assist to Sneak. When you are in sneak its your sneak check verses your enemys spot check plus the bonus of his/her listen.Pepcfreak 13:54, March 10, 2006 (EST)


 * I typically put only spot or listen on a character. An easy check is this: Make a character with no skill in spot or listen.  Go to where the bridge is pulled up in the Sewer Rescue mission.  Can you see the rogue across the way now?  Nope?  Remake, add listen.  Can you see the rogue across the way now?  Do the same with spot.  When I have no spot or listen, I can't see them.  When I do, I plug them with arrows from across the way.  Beating one check is plenty.  Though, I have no idea how that weighs in on invisible opponents.KakarisMaelstrom 17:50, April 27, 2006 (EDT)