Talk:Challenges

F2P tokens
The F2P tokens do not come in stacks of 5. First day i got 3, today only 1 Zzelly


 * My barb and monk each got 1, and my bard got 3. And I got one challenge on my barb and bard this afternoon, and another on my monk this evening... people around me got the same ones around the same time.  Dunno what the timeframe is... -LrdSlvrhnd 21:51, November 10, 2011 (EST)


 * Turbine's explanation is here on compendium but its really vague ofc. --yoko5000 23:42, November 10, 2011 (EST)

On Explaining about Bonus XP from Stars
13:40, 18 November, 2011 (EST) Shade and Azer Draco (myself) have a difference of opinion in how to explain just how the bonus XP is awarded.

Scores
You get 1 Favor point for each star, and 1 additional Favor point if you achieve all 5 stars and run the challenge at its maximum available CR, for a total of 6 Favor.

I believe that it would read much clearer as:

Each Star gives 1 Favor, with an additional 1 Favor bonus for gold (earning all stars at maximum level).

The original explanation read as:

Stars also reward a large amount of bonus XP, however this bonus XP is a 1 time only reward. Which objective you complete isn't whats one time, but exactly what star you get. EG: Getting 3 stars on run #1 will net a good amount of experience, as you are being awarded base XP + bonus xp for star 1, bonus xp for star 2 and bonus xp for star 3. If on a later run you get 4 stars, you will get less total XP, as you are only being awarded the base XP + bonus XP for star 4.

This is very confusing, so I suggest this change:

Bonus XP is awarded the first time a star (optional objective) is earned. The objective completed does not matter. Bonus XP is awarded based on the total number of objectives completed. Consider the following: * Objectives 1, 2, and 3 are achieved in a single run. Bonus XP would be awarded for 3 stars. * Objectives 1, 4, and 5 are achieved in the following run. No Bonus XP would be awarded. * Objectives 1, 2, 4, and 5 are achieved in a following run. Bonus XP would be awarded for 1 star. (the fourth star earned)

Shade, please add your comments here. There's no need for an edit war, nor is there reason for information to be unclear. Between everyone who constructively edits and maintains this Wiki, we can clearly explain anything. --Azer Draco {{post|0|Shade 15:49, November 18, 2011 (EST)| First off, really please start signing your talk posts, and read the Wikiquette article. That or use the {{post|0|| template.

I don't mind you re-wording the paragraph, but I do if you completely remove info, as you did.

The favor thing, I disagree. I don't see any rational as to why thats clearer. It just looks like a shorter sentence that leaves out the total favor amount (6). You can re-word it to include the fact 6 star means the same thing as Gold-starring a challenge if you wish, but leave in the max favor per challenge.

XP thing, well your explanation is wrong and leaves out details again: A) Calling them optionals is misleading, because one of them isn't optional, and no xp is awarded unless the first star is achieved. B) You get bonus XP for the first star.. Even though its required to win, essentially this means the first run always grants more XP. I think this is a bit confusing so I like to specificly point it out, your example doesn't really specificly say it gives xtra xp. C) Three examples that say the same thing I explained in two. Don't see how that clearer.

You can reword it if you wish, just don't leave out any important detail or an consise example please. Just explain why it is confusing, and why yours is clearer, atm I don't see it. }}