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Green Steel Tidy Up

 * The following list of pages are not for immediate deletion, I am compiling this list as I integrate all the information I find everywhere on the wiki into my guide: Current Projects
 * I will notify an admin when all pages have been processed, I do have a compiled list of links on my Links page I have compiled and am sifting through.

These pages once all incorporated should have their redirects forward to the initial introduction page as a starting point for those seeking information: Green Steel: Introduction.


 * Manufactured Green Steel ingredients Working On for Tier 1,2 & 3.
 * Green Steel deconstruction - Incorporated
 * Green Steel Accessory - Incorporated
 * Green Steel item crafting steps - Incorporated
 * Green Steel items - Incorporated
 * Raw Ingredient - Incorporated
 * Raw Green Steel ingredients - Incorporated
 * Green Steel blank - Incorporated
 * Green Steel equipment - Incorporated
 * Green Steel quick guide - Incorporated

Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 15:52, May 7, 2014 (EDT)


 * I will keep eye on these, already replaced obvious one (Green Steel equipment) with a redirect (thats what you do, replace with redirect not just delete). I really dig your idea of replacing recipe chart with new UI screenshots. &rarr; [[Image:CRAFTred.png]] however, I do have a concern that, some of your terminology aren't helpful to us old-timers. for example "Crafted ingredient" is bad, stick with "Manufactured ingredient". "Stage 1,2,3" is the one really bad, "Tier 1,2,3" is the one more commonly used in this matter. well I guess we have to have another place for discussion but I used to put a lot of effort onto these Green Steel pages just to keep the terminology intact. I remember things around dual shard upgrade were very tricky, people were coming up with their own terminology left and right (Quasi-Focus, Aspect Dominance, Dual-Affinities, uh yikes...) GS pages are like most ancient pages on this wiki and I know they still are somewhat messed up but they are not end game anymore but twink gear for TR grind, so we probably shouldn't mess with terminology at all.  --yoko5000 (Contributions • Message) 02:57, May 10, 2014 (EDT)
 * I would recommend keeping the terminology the same too. It's what everyone knows and (maybe) loves.  Perhaps providing a small description for the old terminology to help those who are new to GS crafting...  -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · Blocks · Deletions · Imports · Patrols · Page Moves · Page Protects · User Merges · User Rights) 09:34, May 11, 2014 (EDT)

Taking on board the comments about traditional naming values for green steel crafting steps I have amended all instances of the word STAGE to the much more well known and community wide used name of TIER. Thanks for the constructive input guys, I knew full well I was rocking the status quo when I implemented the STAGE name, it was purposeful to see the uptake on it; more to check if it was a clearer was of presenting this crafting process. Its not, and thats a good thing as sometimes the old ways ARE the best ways after all, but good to check now & then. Slow going right with this project as I just enjoyed a fishing trip for a few days to disconnect myself and recharge; so its back to it !!

But on the note of the 'manufactered' description - thats has to go as a manufactured item involves production and assembly - usually bulk quantities via factories; look at Cannith Manufactury - thats why its named thus - mass production. The 'Crafting' description is much more fitting to this area as a crafted item is made by an individual from start to finish as is Green Steel. Agonshar (Contributions • Message) 07:29, May 12, 2014 (EDT)

Template Quest and MissionInfoBox Update
The Quests page is stagnant, a mess, confusing, and bloated as all hell. :) What I would like to see is: The MissionInfoBox template's |FreeToPlay = yes/no field changed to |Pack= with a possible #switch for FreeToPlay |  . And then change the Quests link in the top Navbar to  and have DPL transclude the pertinent details.

Categorization is hit or miss. For Example, ToEE pt 2 is in Category:Quests, but Pt 1 isn't. The Quests page itself says that it hasn't been updated for 3 updates. This is the prime example of why we installed DPL...

Pretty Please? SysteRn (Contributions • Message) 12:42, April 28, 2015 (EDT)
 * Hi . Please feel free to propose actual code changes to those templates on T:Quest/sandbox and T:MissionInfoBox/sandbox respectively.  I'd probably start with the infobox first, but that is just me. Please email me or leave a notification here when your proposed replacements are ready and I'll look them over and implement. :) ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 14:24, April 28, 2015 (EDT)


 * In general, this sounds likes a good idea. Perhaps you can start designing your alternative Template:SysteRn\Quest and Template:SysteRn\MissionInfoBox. Then for test purposes, convert a handful quests to use your templates. Then design SysteRn\Quests as you'd like to see it, with DPL and whatnot. Demonstrate that all works flawlessly, post here your proposal - and then we switch to your version. Would this work? --Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 14:30, April 28, 2015 (EDT)
 * Yarrr... Did someone say design???  ;) -- Ague (Talk · Contribs · B · D · I · P · PM · PP · UM · UR) 14:34, April 28, 2015 (EDT)

Layout of item pages
Since few weeks ago, the layout of item pages is a bit broken for me. I now have horizontal scroll bar for all item pages. Previously, all such pages were displayed correctly on my display resolution. Now the pictures seem to no longer fit in the window. Anyone knows what I am blabbering about or should I post a screen shot? --Cru121 (Contributions • Message) 12:23, August 21, 2015 (EDT)
 * Screenshot or it didn't happen. ShoeMaker (Contributions • Message) 13:27, August 21, 2015 (EDT)
 * Here's a pic: . Previously, at this window width (and also much lower widths) the picture was displayed correctly; the frame in which the picture belongs was also displayed correctly, the first and second column was condensed instead. Now I need IIRC at least 1600 window width to display item pages without horizontal scroll bar. -- Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; Check ) 07:09, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * Nothing has changed with the templates or with the site CSS that I can see that would cause that. I do plan on getting back to my T:Named Item project at some point, and I'll make sure that it is fixed before that goes live. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rights &thinsp;•&thinsp;Block &thinsp;•&thinsp;Rename&thinsp;•&thinsp; ) 07:33, August 22, 2015 (EDT)
 * SOLVED: This behavior seems to be caused by my adblocking plugin, uBlock.-- Cru121 (Contribs • Message • Email ) 07:47, September 27, 2015 (EDT)
 * Previously I stated that the behavior was solved by disabling uBlock, it is not true, still happening. Revisiting this because apparently other ppl ran into this as well (User_talk:Technical_13/2015/4). --Cru121
 * Like I said on my talk page, it's on my to do list. I should be able to finish it up by the end of the year. :) ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 06:46, October 31, 2015 (EDT)
 * Didn't happen last year, but it's getting much closer to the top of my "old to-do list" which keeps getting interrupted by new stuffs. I'm about to have a new son next month, and hopefully the couple months I expect to be away from the wiki will give me a renewed vigor for this project. ShoeMaker (Contribs • Message • Email ) 10:36, February 4, 2016 (EST)

Incorporate the Dashboard by EllisDee37 on to the home page
So I am proposing that the dashboard be incorporated onto the home screen of the wiki. Either as a full or partial replacement for the current Site Map portion, as it essentially will server the same purpose. I was informed by Shoe that I needed full community support in order for that to happen. So what I propose is this:
 * Incorporate a transclusion of EllisDee's dashboard on to the homepage below What's New and above Site Map.
 * Rework Site Map to remove redundant information and include any missing information that new players can/may/will find useful.
 * Unlocking EllisDee37's dashboard on their personal namespace.

I will be posting this same information on the DDO Forums as well as the DDO Discord, but please make your comments here in this thread and include a ~ at the end of your comment so we know that it's signed/unsigned by different users. (You do not require an account to comment here). After work, I will do a mock up of my proposal in my personal namespace to link to so you all can see what I am referring to visually. Ague (Talk · Contribs &thinsp;•&thinsp;Email · B&thinsp;•&thinsp;D&thinsp;•&thinsp;I · P&thinsp;•&thinsp;PM&thinsp;•&thinsp;PP · UM&thinsp;•&thinsp;UR) 14:42, April 26, 2017 (EDT)
 * Like I said on the wiki's official, make a mock-up in a sandbox and then get approval. Thanks. ShoeMaker (Contribs&thinsp;•&thinsp;Message&thinsp;•&thinsp;Email ) 14:46, April 26, 2017 (EDT)
 * Actually, all you said was (and I quote)

Technical_13 - Today at 12:08 PM We're not replacing home without full acceptance by the wiki userbase. But I do plan on making a mock up of it once I'm home from work. I will post links/images once I'm done. Ague (Talk · Contribs &thinsp;•&thinsp;Email · B&thinsp;•&thinsp;D&thinsp;•&thinsp;I · P&thinsp;•&thinsp;PM&thinsp;•&thinsp;PP · UM&thinsp;•&thinsp;UR) 14:51, April 26, 2017 (EDT)
 * Actually, and I quote

Technical_13 - Today at 2:33 PM It's clutter. If you want to completely redesign the Home page, go ahead and work it up in a sandbox. Post a request to implement it on DDO:AN. Just keep in mind the goals are to keep it slim.
 * So, until that is done. This thread is closed. ShoeMaker (Contribs&thinsp;•&thinsp;Message&thinsp;•&thinsp;Email ) 15:02, April 26, 2017 (EDT)

Have a link to new player information on the LHS menu of the home page
DDO is dying. There are less and less players on and the userbase is shrinking. One way we can change that is making it easier for others to learn and play with others - to *connect* with other players to help get over the learning curve that can be so frustrating. DDOwiki is a key tool in doing this - it is frequently referred to by others driving traffic to this site and increasing the visibility to those who might come at the game for the first time. At the moment the new player information is referring to as 'Getting Started' and over half way down the front page (it takes me 3 actions to make this visible via 3 scrolls down of my mouse). My suggestion is that as new players are so critical to the game that the visibility of this information is increased - I suggest a direct link to the Getting Started section on the LHS of the page called "new player information"  --User:Melicat
 * It's also in the Sitenotice/Anonnotice on the top for every visitor of the wiki. "Newbie Guid".  I indicated that this link would be updated once your updated content was ready and moved to mainspace.  I also agree it won't hurt to add something about it to the sidebar.  Currently, the only lack of agreement here seems to be what such a thing should be called.  My impression is that the landing page for this project is intended to be more of an alternative home page/site map for the newest of players.  If this is the case, it should probably be called a "New Player Portal". Since an "Information" page on wiki means a page with information about a page, such as, it probably shouldn't use that term at the risk of adding confusion later.  Guide or Manual might be alternative options depending on the format/layout of the page we're linking to. ShoeMaker (Contribs&thinsp;•&thinsp;Message&thinsp;•&thinsp;Email ) 15:11, May 2, 2017 (EDT)
 * Portal is a technical word. I suggest that any wording chosen is consistent with the DDO wording which is "New Player Advice & Guidance". - Meli

Add to sitenotice
Given how major (and complicated) the mechanic Reincarnation has become, I figured it might be a good idea to add the Reincarnation page to the links at the top of the home page to allow for easier/more convenient access by visitors seeking such info, especially new players. I'm assuming this would require the approval of someone with the permissions to do so though.

Thoughts?

&rArr; Jayron (Contribs • Message • Email ) 21:55, November 12, 2017 (EST)

Disambiguation pages being orphans
I think that disambiguation pages shouldn't be considered orphans since, ideally, they shouldn't have any other page linking to them.

There are some that were tagged as orphans (Augmentation). Should the template be removed?

&rArr; Mogafi (Contribs • Message • Email ) 13:20, August 23, 2018 (EDT)
 * Yes, of course the template should be removed. The reason it was added to the pages in the first place was a very poor usage of a bot: User:Kobold sneak. &rArr; Faltout (Contribs • Message • Email ) 15:18, August 23, 2018 (EDT)
 * It wasn't specifically.  It was added by DDO:AWB and will be readded anytime someone uses that with that specific feature turned on unless the page is tagged with Nobots.  &#x1f45f;&thinsp;ShoeMaker (Contribs&thinsp;•&thinsp;Message&thinsp;•&thinsp;Email )&thinsp;&#x1f45f; 19:43, August 23, 2018 (EDT)
 * I thought that much. In that case, should the template disambiguation add the nobots tag? &rArr; Mogafi (Contribs • Message • Email ) 04:56, August 25, 2018 (EDT)
 * AWB doesn't transclude templates, it reads the raw wikitext.  &#x1f45f;&thinsp;ShoeMaker (Contribs&thinsp;•&thinsp;Message&thinsp;•&thinsp;Email )&thinsp;&#x1f45f; 18:05, August 25, 2018 (EDT)
 * I see... So whoever is running AWB needs to use the skip function to skip . See AWB manual. &rArr; Mogafi (Contribs • Message • Email ) 22:38, August 25, 2018 (EDT)