User talk:MorpheusAlpha

The Pirates of the Thunder Sea (heroic)
This is potentially the easiest of the sagas to do and is therefore an easy way to get xp for a higher level character or renown for a Guild. ''Further information below is specific to this saga, though it may be true for all sagas. As I have only done this particular saga, I can only guarantee that the following information is true for this saga alone'':

This saga can be completed in its entirety in roughly two hours, less if one is familiar with the quests. This does not include using a VIP skip or spending Astral Shards to skip a quest in this saga. If one of these options is taken the saga can be completed in less time. For those who wish to use their VIP skip, as this does not seem to be a good way to spend Astral Shards, it is recommended that it be used for one of the following quests: Irestone Inlet, The Legend of Two-Toed Tobias, Prove Your Worth, or Ghost of a Chance. The Legend of Two-Toed Tobias seems to be the most popular choice as it is considered a frustratingly long mission with the back and forth running and swimming required to complete it. It is not recommended for the Garl's Tomb quests as the first is a prerequisite for the second, and using a VIP skip on the first quest (The Troglodytes Get) may not advance the storyline to the second quest (Grey Garl's Tomb), though this has not been tested. Skipping any of the Sentinels of Stormreach storyline quests may not advance the four-quest storyline and may not give the bonus end reward for completing the storyline. Again, this has not been tested, but it might be best to not skip any of the Sentinels quests just in case. In spite of this it is tempting to skip The Bargain Bazaar due to its long run in across a wilderness zone.

If this saga is being run for Guild Renown, there is a method that will allow the best possible returns for a Guild Renown potion. The potion does not have to be in effect for the entire first saga. It can be used immediately after finishing the last quest in the chain and before talking to the contact, Drell Jake. The potion will multiply the end of saga Renown reward; my VIP account character in a 15 member guild had the 15,000 True Elite renown reward become a 139,500 renown reward by use of a Greater Guild Renown potion. If the completing character does no other quests until the saga timer resets, the saga can be completed again before the potion's 3 hour duration ends. For those who can complete the saga at a higher speed by using a skip and/or doing only the basics required for quest completion, it is likely that the saga can be completed three times before the potion expires. Thus the combination of this saga and a single Greater Guild Renown potion can potentially earn a guild over 400,000 renown.

Also be aware that if the saga is completed by a character of up to 14th level, the end of saga reward list may include an additional reward of 'Heroic Deeds' or 'Tales of Renown'. Remember to NOT click on this choice or you will have just burned a couple of hours of play time for a heck of a lot less renown!

'''Again, these notes MAY be true for all sagas. However, as I have not played the other sagas yet, I can only guarantee that this information is true for THIS saga.'''

First of all, this saga is a good renown/xp farming spot for ANY level of character, especially for those who solo. With higher level (15-20) characters the saga runs pretty damn quickly and can provide a very good renown reward or a nice xp reward (I assume that. I've just been getting renown so far.  I will have to make a test run to be certain, so I could not post that it would do so in a wiki page) too, especially if one is tired of getting slaughtered by at-level or near-level content, some of which is all but impossible to solo, even with an onyx panther, an 18th level skeletal warrior, and a standard hireling. Especially if the wiki quest entries leave out information that could help.

The biggest issue I've had with this wiki is when insufficient information is given for someone who does not have the full knowledge of the original poster/editor. There is way too much in the way of assumed knowledge, which means that this wiki isn't as useful for someone who doesn't already know most of the info and is just looking for an extra tidbit. I've been playing this game, mostly solo, for five years. As a solo player, I don't have a wealth of in-game friends to rely on for information because my schedule means I'm on only at odd times and for uncertain lengths. Thus there's still a ton of stuff I don't know. Wikis like this are my only way of getting ideas of what to do or how to do it best. However, due to aggressive editing, there are a lot of times when information is left out because the poster/editor knows what he/she is talking about, therefore everyone should. For example, putting 'go through the doors that have a blue gem over them to not get stuck when running the Tomb of the Shadow Lord quest solo' would have saved me a frustrating late-game dimension door spell and running through the entire thing again, but it apparently wasn't needed because the OP/editor knew which path to take, thus we have the vague 'upper door' and the vague 'northern door' with no frame of reference. Frustrating.

Since my earlier contributions to the Saga had been tossed out without an explanation like you gave for this heavy edit, and don't misunderstand me; I do appreciate your explanation, I went back and put the information in while explaining that this information could only be guaranteed true for THIS saga because that was I had done it in. Excessively verbose? Perhaps. But it was the only way I had of not having someone who already knew all this come by and toss it in the trash with a 'this belongs elsewhere' aside. And, yes, I had done this from a 'personal' viewpoint with what was considered non-essential information because of the limits of my experience with sagas. Like any good scientist I presented my findings, explained my methods and materials so others could try to replicate them, and gave my results. That was the best way I know of putting the information out there so others who were as new as I had been to the world of sagas could learn from and perhaps repeat my experiences for their benefit. And could also try to replicate my experience in this saga on other sagas and determine if the information applied across the board or if it was specific to just this saga.

This wiki has a wealth of information. There is a lot to be learned here. But most of the information is only of use to people who already are familiar with the subjects of the entries, or who are willing to do the frustrating job of hunting down information across a dozen other pages because, like in this case with a specific saga, the specific saga information page just says "This is a saga." and provides zero information on effective running of this particular saga or advantages/disadvantages of doing it a certain way. I have now run this saga over two dozen times while trying to get my mostly solo Guild from level 27 to level 40 (one more run and I'm there!). The general saga page wasn't much help in finding ways to effectively do THIS saga. The individual quest pages offered me little insight in how to do this saga. The page for this particular saga repeated the end of saga awards (which was already available on the main saga page and, judging by my first editor who threw my notes in the trash, the redundant saga awards should be tossed too since they are already in existence elsewhere), and gave me information on how often the saga could be repeated, which wasn't helpful because it wasn't accurate.

I tried to contribute to make what I consider to be a needed but currently often unhelpful resource even better. I am angry and frustrated that most of my additional information which dealt with ways I have effectively run a particular saga was considered worthless, while the short paragraph about the similarities between the General Manager in Bargain of Blood and a Mad Max villain is considered worth keeping.

Are the above paragraphs excessively verbose? Possibly. But simply saying "WTF, yo?" in reply, while it might be in line with quite a few of the entries in this wiki, would be as unhelpful as quite a few of the entries in this wiki.

Note: I am in full snark mode and angry, but not directly at you, Cru121, and I am sorry and I do apologize if you feel I am blasting you because that is not my intent. All I wanted to do is supply useful information that I wished I had had access to before I began running sagas and certain quests but that was not available. Perhaps there is a better place for me to post newbie guides and other information that will actually help newbies, but if there is I am not sure where it would be.

-sigh- Right, I'm still learning the wiki thing and have no clue how to sign stuff yet obviously, so the above rant and this comment was made by me, Patrick, MorpheusAlpha, whatever. Sorry.