Talk:Home

/w in the url
Since the last update (if I remember correctly), there is now a /w in all urls (e.g. http://en.ddowiki.ws/w/Home). Until recently, the url without the /w (e.g. ) also worked (by redirecting to the /w address). Now, it does not work anymore. This could be a problem for urls posted previously, as well as for people who bookmarked some specific pages. Any way to fix it? Tihocan 11:12, March 6, 2006 (EST)


 * Ah, stupid me. I read it too fast. It will automatically redirect within 5s. So, my question will just be: is this permanent? (just making sure in order to post correct urls on forums for instance). Tihocan 11:14, March 6, 2006 (EST)


 * LOL - yah, we don't know what the final scheme will be. Probably two different things for action URLs and page titles, but not sure. For now, use the DEFINATE URL - http://en.ddowiki.ws/index.php?title=Pagename - any old URL will probably figure itself out, anyway.


 * Yes please, try to keep backward compatibility, or some users are just going to get lost. And we want old links to work so that people can use the direct links we provide on the ddo forums. Tihocan 17:00, March 6, 2006 (EST)

Reference desk
Just got it set up. Would all you regular users go add the various sections to your watchlist, so we can promptly and succinctly answer any questions? Thanks. Also, go advertise it on the forums - as a source for questions and answers. Thanks!


 * I like it. I changed the "Ask a question" link on the home page to point to it. However, what exactly does the Modifications topic cover? I can't quite figure out what kind of game questions would fall under that heading. Is it for modifications to the wiki? Or is this a generic help desk layout that applies to other games that can have user-made mods? It seems a bit ambiguous to me even after reading the description, and will probably get some inappropriate questions placed there as it currently stands. Maybe a slight rewording would be beneficial? Dedridd 09:52, March 7, 2006 (EST)


 * For game modifications of course - sooner or later they HAVE to release an API, or even if they don't, there will be modifications. Any game without user intervention is lame.


 * You're more than entitled to your opinion, but my point is that it's confusing. Since the design of the game doesn't currently include the ability to do mods, does the link make sense now? Dedridd 12:25, March 7, 2006 (EST)


 * Comment it out if you like. Sort of afk at the moment.

New thread, same topic. I put a question and answer block in the FAQ page about posting wiki-editing questions to the reference desk. What about adding a section for Wiki questions? As Peerless is aware, when I first started contemplating doing some edits I was full of questions, but wasn't sure where to post. 'Other' might work, but having a separate topic for this might make it a bit more new-contributor friendly. I'll set it up if there's no objections. Dedridd 16:08, March 8, 2006 (EST)
 * See the red-outlined section at the bottom here: Reference desk. It is specifically NOT for asking wiki questions - I left 4 other resources for that there. The help desk is exactly what you are talking about. I just haven't had time to give it a fancy front page like I did the reference desk, will do later if you don't.


 * I was blind, but now I can see! Duh, that was silly of me... Dedridd 16:34, March 8, 2006 (EST)


 * Nice rhyme.

Color Scheme of the Wiki
Is there a way I can change the color scheme of the Wiki so it doesn't hurt my eyes? I really need/prefer a black/dark background over lighter text. Infact the previous dark color scheme was easier on my eyes. (But I like this new layout)
 * Dark color scheme is out - for now. Due to colorization hardcoding and user differences.

(Hi everyone. Sorry for this newbie question, but I've tried to find info searching and have failed)
 * Not a newbie question, the site admin is still asking me this himself - see below.

By the way, just to expand on what I said, I really like the current layout, I find it's very easy to find information and compare it. I'm particularly fond of the Enhancements setup with links to all other enhancements and also links from within the "base" item (ranger enhancements with link to the ranger class in general, for example). Keep up the good work!
 * That's all wiki layout, designed by the members. Not up to me - although I would like some more input on the page layout, the part around the content area that doesn't change per page.

PS: I'll be making my first contribution today, I finally found something to add =) (rather change) it's a small error, but hey every little bit helps :)
 * yay!

One last comment: Keep in mind that Opera users often have their "ID" string set to fool pages into thinking they're Internet Explorer. Also Opera in many ways does behave like IE to 'fix' the broken pages. While this IS changeable/overrideable, it's something most people won't do. So for example.. when I edit my profile, it displays things "wrong" just as Internet Explorer does. Heh. (the options are partially overlayed (floated) on top of the text)
 * ''I know, I spoof when necessary through saft. We try to cater to all browsers and platforms as much as possible - the preferences layout is just plain broken in any browser right now. I haven't had time to fix it.
 * Eh, I want a dark background too. But I don't know how to do it, lol Tihocan 15:33, March 8, 2006 (EST)
 * Replies indented twice and italicized above are mine. Anyway, yes, dark is out until I get a javascript inverter function.

Magic sidebar fun
Whatchoo think? That's like 8 hours of work lol - I know neither PHP nor JS, and was trying to combine both AND prototype AND behaviors in one little snippet of code. Next up? Dynamic hiding of the advertisement box (-:<


 * Hey, that's nice! Although it wasn't immediately obvious that it would expand with a click. Dunno if a small down arrow'ish icon or a tooltip would help that or not for new site visitors. Also, what are the double search boxes for? Dedridd 14:05, March 14, 2006 (EST)


 * Same here, thought I had just lost my sidebars ;) Tihocan 15:47, March 14, 2006 (EST)


 * Whatever script code that just got added recently that scrolls my screen down to the top whichever side-bar section I click on has got to go. Dedridd 15:58, March 14, 2006 (EST)


 * I could not say it better. Tihocan 16:14, March 14, 2006 (EST)


 * Sorry, working on it ^^/


 * Ok, that's fixed - also, check the adverts. Click the little [^] button (-;


 * Great! And sorry that it was something you were in the middle of. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a 'feature' of the new hidden sidebar system. :D Dedridd 20:20, March 14, 2006 (EST)


 * I hope the rest of my 'features' don't seem like that... especially the hard-to-cause-ones!


 * Cool :) Tihocan 11:00, March 15, 2006 (EST)

I'm digging the new content mods - including the Readers and Editors section titles! Having the Readers section open by default is also an excellent move, IMO. Dedridd 14:47, March 16, 2006 (EST)


 * We all know you dig everything I do. I am sooooo full of my self right now - and deserving it (-:


 * * refrains from citing examples of undigginess* :P Dedridd 16:33, March 16, 2006 (EST)


 * Yay it's really nice now, great work Peer! :) Tihocan 14:09, March 17, 2006 (EST)

New stuff
Ok, I've had about half these features live on my local wiki for a while, been trying to get them all ready before presentation. The last hangup has been the verification system - it works fine locally, but I can't make it integrate properly into the slightly strange site substitution we use here on the actual network. Anyway, I gave up for now, and just brought most everything I had live. My personal favorite isn't even listed on the front page there - see the bottom of any page for the new contribution attributions - once google crawls our site again, try googling your real name. More interesting results than usual, no? Anyway, another really cool one is the AJAX preview - try it when your replying to this post hehe. The rest are still too cool for words, which is why I am going to stop typing said words, press that awesome preview button just so I can see it in action one more time before bed, and go there.


 * To be honest, I don't understand half of what you're talking about. But it sounds great :D Tihocan 14:58, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * You'll see as time goes on - I am most proud of the AJAX previewing - just reply to this and hit 'Show preview' instead of 'Save page' - you'll see immediately what I mean. {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:59, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * Aaah, I think I see now. Actually, I had not noticed it immediately, my bad. Preview seems instant now. Cool :) Tihocan 11:10, March 21, 2006 (EST)


 * Peerless, I think the contributions thing is an interesting idea, but I prefer to keep my gaming persona separate from my real life, and therefore prefer anonymity. Based on the amount of anonymous edits we get here, I don't think I'm alone in this (granted there's other reasons why folks might not register here before editing). What would you think about using account names (but not anonymous IP addresses) if the real name info is blank? Dedridd 15:21, March 20, 2006 (EST)


 * Yes, that is how it works. Just delete the Real Name field in the preferences to show username instead. I am suprised, however - do you not want attribution for your hard work and contributions? I sure do (-: {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:59, March 20, 2006 (EST)}}


 * Sure - game stuff under my gaming persona, and work stuff under my professional persona. Dedridd 08:52, March 21, 2006 (EST)
 * I meant under your real name lol - whatever, up to you, thanks to being able to switch it off (-: {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:03, March 21, 2006 (EST)}}


 * Unfortunately because of the AJAX previewing, you can't use 'Show preview' to test that the categories are set up right on a page before saving. Is there a way around this? I'm sure it's a side-effect of not posting back to show the changes in the preview, since the category entries seem to be a parsing thing in the wiki codebase, but this may lead to a lot more revisions of each page to get the categories right - or people may not even notice that they got them wrong. I can't think of a good middle-ground to suggest at this point, but I'm hoping you'll have an idea of how to get around this. Dedridd 09:18, March 21, 2006 (EST)


 * Well, for now you can switch off javascript to do it... hmmm I'll need to think on this. What exactly isn't showing up right? If you mean the box showing what categories the page is in; that should be - wow your right it doesn't show up. Weird. I guess I didn't expect anybody to need to preview that - if you put it in category A, then it's in category A... I'm confused how that could be hard; but I'll work on integrating it. It may be really hard, as I already wrapped up the entire AJAX preview work and integrated it... {{:User:Peerless/Sig1| 16:03, March 21, 2006 (EST)}}


 * For people familiar with our naming conventions, they'll probably get the category name correct on the first try. Those that aren't might use a singular form of a page name, however. And while a simple typo or misspelling (such as Category:Guild) won't keep it from showing up in the category box, if it is marked as a non-existing page, then you know you probably messed up the category link somehow. I've found this very helpful when categorizing pages. Dedridd 16:18, March 21, 2006 (EST)