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[edit] Welcome!
May I extend my warmest welcomes and offer you any help you may need? Thanks for your contributions, mate!
If you need help with something...
- ...I'm always available! You can drop a message on my user talk page (which I watch like a hawk) or grab my other contact info on my user page.
- ...There's a wealth of wiki documentation on the meta wiki, perhaps some of it may be of use to you.
- ...There's a really good Introduction over on meta also, it should help you figure out what's going on if your new to wikis in general.
I'd like to hear a reply! Just click Edit above, and write a message under where mine ends - then, at the end of your message (on the same line) type four tildes (Like this: ~~~~) to automatically insert a nickname linked to your user page, and a date/time signature!
Again, welcome to the wiki - and I can't thank you enough on behalf of the community for your help in making us the best DDO site around (-;
[edit] Latest Edits
Hi there Yoko, may I ask you why some of your last edits consist of removing? Any reason to delete these items?
Please, when editing explain the reason of the edit. :) I'm patroling the edits and I like to know reasons of a change. Some are quite obvious, but some of yours are really technical and I'd like to know the reason. :)
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Please answer on the talk page asap. :)
Thanks for making the wiki grow.
heya, Borror. hmm... which one do you mean? i dont think i have deleted any item (i moved some of them tho). and yea, i will leave edit comments more often. thank you.
Oh, only saw you deleting, didn't see the moving part. :P Sorry about that. :$ But yeah, leaving edit summaries sure do make my life easier. :)
Well, I'm pretty happy of the job you're doing on the wiki. I've promoted you to sysop, I think it allows you to move and delete pages. I hope you'll continue the Unique loot pages as Mod is around the corner. :) If you feel like creating the item's page (for example, Sunblade's page) well do so!! :)
Glad to have you in the team.
[edit] Quests
I'm very impressed by your work on the quests, if you need help for anything, just ask!! :D Borror0 01:51, October 11, 2007 (EDT)
heya, man. yeah im extreamly bored at work. i just wanna thank someone who just changed q templete and didnt take care of each entry for givin me somthin to do. :P im also thinkin about adding categoy of when the quest is introduced to game (like module1.0, 1.1, 1.2...), just another copy-paste-macro-click work so maybe on next oppotunity.
I'm the one who changed the tempalte... what did I do wrong? :S
Anyway, glad you "have nothing to do and is extremly bored at work", you're editing the wiki a lot. :) The quest section need some help. ;)
Also, no need for me to break any template.. there is plenty of job to do on the wiki... if you ever need something to do... there is the enhancements to get back from mod 3.X!!! :O Borror0 04:37, October 11, 2007 (EDT)
[edit] Quest template
How about we just scrap the lore section? Pretty much everything can put in the overview instead? Sounds good?
Also, how about not giving spoilers before the spoiler alert? ;) Borror0 23:46, October 21, 2007 (EDT)
yup i agree that spoiler warning should be above 'overview', theres a lot of entry which can potentially be spoiler in overview section. and hmm lore section ... yea it is quite pointless atm,
i quickly searched it and seems like these are all about it. go ahead and do it if u want.
im goin to merge these nfo into somewhere.
- 16: lore=You are tasked with rescuing the son of the origi...
- 12: lore=This quest is refered as 'Warder Defense' in ques...
- 13: lore=There are several optionslas in this quest:
- 13: lore=Completing the quest will make you a member of th...
- 15: lore=Nimbus tells you the giants have found a large st...
- 16: lore=This quest is reffered as 'Dead Girl's Spellbook'...
I actually think the overview should be a spoil-less place.
Tips should go in the tips section if you get what I mean. Overview should be used to tell what it does and where it leads uo to. (ie The Prison of the Mind is VoN 2 and leads you to Plane of Night. In that quest, you have to help Orphene(whatever her name is) to get out of her dreams, blah blah blah... but you must not say that there is loads of trap or that a rogue would help or that you need 12 Int for VoN 3.
They'll learn it by themselves... if they don't want spoilers. People might simply want to know what the quest is without knowing how to get prepared for it. What do you think about that? Sounds good? Am I crazy? :P Borror0 04:58, October 22, 2007 (EDT)
pufff, alrigh i got it. concering spoiler, you were talking about my edits on von series not about templete. yea i wasnt payin too much attension just wanted to move em from this to each quest entry. sry bout htat. goin to do same thing with this but will pay more attension.
I don't know if you read DDO forums a lot so I'll post it there for you : Rowanheal's Comprehensive Quest List
Thought it might make your life easier. ;) Borror0 19:38, October 24, 2007 (EDT)
[edit] New templates?
I don't know if you liek the idea behind the Bane template so far, but I do. find it'd a great way to reduce the cliking for the user. Just hover the link and you'll read the description.
My question is: If I make a bunch of template like these, would you help me add them to the unique named pages?
I consider your opinion about as much as mine on this one, you're the one maintening these pages a lot. Thoguht it'd be nice to ask you. also, if you got any idea/suggestion to imporve those pages, my ears are wide open.:) Borror0 05:18, November 17, 2007 (EST)
Thats nice idea. Spell resistance, wizardry, elemental resist, potency stuff, spell-lore, fort, false life ... theres a lot that need bane-like templete. Go ahead, lets see what happens.
I made all the skills so far pretty useful to use, if you don't get how I'll explain, I did an example with disable device somewhere in the Recent changes, hehe.
Maybe starting to use them when you got "free time". :) I'll do it if you haven't once I'm done with the other templates. Thanks for all the work you're doing! :) Borror0 18:37, November 17, 2007 (EST)
[edit] Spoilers
Hey dude, check the PPoI at the top of the page, let me know what you think about it! - Borror0 23:28, December 16, 2007 (EST)
- that hover thing dont work on this comp (winxp/ie6, at my office) at all. will see whats the point at my home (win2k/firefox2) later - yoko5000 23:41, December 16, 2007 (EST)
- Mind taking a SS of what it does on IE 6? -Borror0 23:52, December 16, 2007 (EST)
- just dose nothin like this - yoko5000 23:41, December 16, 2007 (EST)
- Arg... that might be very problematic, since they'd get no access to the information. No one should have IE 6, ever. It a pain and has even more problem than IE 7, sadly, it's there and we have to deal with in... So, the question is... should we use it? I'm sort of thinking no.. that is loosing too much inforamtion... -Borror0 08:19, December 17, 2007 (EST)
- yea it sucks but my vote is no too. - yoko5000 21:41, December 17, 2007 (EST)
I just wanted to say hi, because I don't really know you very well, and you do some good editing around here.
heya, yea been hopin to jump in chat or IM but im in wired time and editing mainly at work. what is dumbest is i got no admin access to comp using at work so cant install anythin (dont even have firefox..., oh boy). my stance to the site is kind of a laid back and allowing, just doin worker-bee stuff mainly, havnt involved in discussion much but i guess im gonna stick around for a while.
[edit] Enhancements
I've completed the template for enhancements on the new wiki, if you just want to import it here meanwhile. Just go ahead. Template. Template talk. At least tell me what you think and/or the possible improvements to it. :)
i think required level field is gonna definetly be needed. do you still think enhancements should be ordered by required level? my opinion is different... llike this guy pointed out, theres so many un-useful enhancements gets in the way, making it tougher to grab idea of what all class enhancements are about. you know theres almost a thousand enhancements in game...
I was thinking putting them by level, plus giving them their own page. Making a page for all Toughness enhancements, etc. I think that that by level is the best sort of sorting as the level is more relevant information, like when you've got two level of rogues and want to see what's available. If you want to know about enhancements, you're going read them all anyway. If you're looking for one, you're going to Ctrl+F it or search for on the wiki.
New version of the Enhancement Template, since you are working a lot on the enhancements section I figured you could check into it. Borror0 09:11, December 3, 2008 (EST)
um already looked at it, and i didnt see the point... its essentially no different from sorjenur's template isnt it? i modified it to show lvl requirement so enhancement pages dont necessary have to be ordered by lvl. ...alrigh i need to explain what im doing here i guess...
im not gunna get enhancements ordered by req lvl here. hate to say this but turbines compendium already has em ordered by lvl. we should offer something different... im still with the guy on rog enhancement talk. and reasoning behind it is not only that, see what im doin on drow enhancements. inclusion. like you mentioned ealier, we have to have own pages for each enhancements too (...not a page per a enhancement but a page per a enhancement line, i guess). so 1st - make pages for all enhancement line, tehn make class/race summary pages with inclusion to them.
it will be easy to maintain too - just 1 edit per a enhancement change. anyway, goin to finish that with drow enhancements page soon so let me know what you think about it.
I am hearing rumors that DDO Japan is having issues, that players fear the servers will get closed like what happened to DDO China. Have you heard of that and if yes do you know what's happening exactly? --Borror0 08:35, May 12, 2009 (EDT)
- Apparently this contains some info on the matter, if you don't mind helping. --Borror0 09:02, May 12, 2009 (EDT)
about time to learn the language eh? uh yea, among people over there, it is believed that DDO japan is going to be closed in this September. there are good reasons for it. its a shame tho, if m9 is delayed further more, they wont see it. will do some research and translation later for you, but for now, try goggle translate this part from the pdf
- 10). 米国Turbine,Inc.との販売サービス契約(DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICES AGREEMENT)について
- 平成16年12月27日に米国Turbine,Inc.と「ダンジョンズ&ドラゴンズ・オンライン™ ストームリーチ™ 」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売の契約を締結しております。この契約は平成16年12月27日より平成20年12月27日が契約期間となっております。また、平成18年8月31日に同米国法人と「ロード・オブ・ザ・リングス・オンライン アングマールの影」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売等を締結しております。この契約は正式サービス開始より4年間が契約期間となっております。
- しかし、いずれの契約も双方の合意をもって自動延長もしくは契約期間内での中途解約を認めるとあり、オンラインゲーム事業が想定した会員数に達しなかった場合であっても、双方の合意がなければ契約期間内での中途解約ができず、契約終了日までサービスの提供を継続しなければならない可能性があります。そのため、オンラインゲーム事業を継続するための運営費等が計上され業績に影響を及ぼす可能性があります。
and this one.
- 1. 特別損失の発生について
- 平成20年3月期につきまして、米国Turbine,Inc.との販売サービス契約(DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICES AGREEMENT)の修正に伴う違約金が発生するため、特別損失が約272百万円(2,520千ドル相当額)発生いたします。
- (背景)
- 当社は平成17年12月27日に米国Turbine,Inc.と「ダンジョンズ&ドラゴンズ・オンライン™ ストームリーチ™ 」日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売および運用等に関する契約を締結しております。また、平成18年8月31日に同米国法人と「ロード・オブ・ザ・リングス・オンライン™ アングマールの影™ 」の日本国内におけるゲームソフトの販売および運用等に関する契約を締結しております。当該契約については双方の合意をもって自動延長もしくは契約期間内での中途解約を認めるとあり、当社において想定した会員数に達しなかった場合であっても、双方の合意がなければ契約期間内での中途解約ができず、契約終了日までサービスの提供を継続しなければならないため、ゲームコンテンツ事業を継続するための運営費等を計上しております。
- しかしながら、ゲームコンテンツ事業が想定した会員数に達していない事を鑑み、販売および運用等の期間を短縮する事により事業継続の判断時期を早め、固定的なロイヤリティ支払いを撤廃する事により月々の運営コストを軽減化する事が適当であるとの判断に至ったため、米国Turbine,Inc.社に違約金を支払う事によって、当該販売サービス契約の販売および運用等の期間を2009年9月までの契約期間等に変更した契約に修正することといたしました。
--yoko5000 11:44, May 12, 2009 (EDT)
okay, rough translation... the 1st one explains sales contract Sakura Internet and Turbine originally had, and Sakura's potential risk within;
- On December 27 2004, we concluded a sales contract for gaming software, "Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach", with United States Turbine, Inc. In this contract, from December 27 2004 to December 27 2008 was duration of policy.
- Moreover, sales contract for gaming software, "Lord of the Rings Online: Shadow of Angmar" were concluded on August 31, 2006. Duration of policy in this contract was, 4 years from beginning of formal service.
- However, each contract states automatic extension or dissolution in duration of policy is only admitted within mutual agreement, thus, there is a possibility that we cannot make the dissolution and have to continue the service until the contract end-date, even if it does not reach the number of customers that our online game business have assumed.
- Therefore, the management expense and such to continue the online game business has a possibility to impact our achievement.
then the 2nd says Sakura Internet paid some cash to basically get rid of the contract and shorten the duration.
- 1. About the generation of the extraordinary expense
- In the period of March, 2008, extraordinary expense will be generated for about 272 million yen (2.52 million dollar equivalent value), because of the penalty related to correction of sales/service contract (DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICES AGREEMENT) with United States Turbine,Inc.
- (Background)
- blah blah blah.. basically saying same thing above
- However, considering the fact our game contents business didn't reach the number of customers we have assumed, we have reached to a decision that it is suitable to bring forward the time to judge business continuance, by shortening period of sales, operation and such, and reducing the management cost per month, by abolishing fixed royalty payment. Thus we decided to pay penalty to United States Turbine, Inc. and corrected the contract to have changed period of sales and operation until September, 2009.
Sakura Internet fell in temporal insolvency for these online game-related expenses while their main bussiness - internet server hosting was going well. CEO at the time, who was known for being a MMO-fan (i think he was EQ player) had to step down because of this.
While there is nothing announced about future of their online game business yet, its not logical to think they will renew contract with Turbine and continue the business. Stock holders wont simply let them, you know.
Its just a shame, there seemed to be honest customer service, Sakura did everything they could, frequent GM events, offering blog space for the community , heck, they even made the game free to play (until players hit level 5 or something), however, DDO and LotR just didnt cut in Japanese market.
--yoko5000 03:47, May 20, 2009 (EDT) (sry for slow update)
[edit] $1 page
That page is what people get to when they click the "Create this article" link on the search page because it seems that the search parameter isn't getting loaded into that link. --JonTheMon 12:13, November 2, 2009 (EST)
- good to know, thank you! i protected the page. --yoko5000 22:26, November 2, 2009 (EST)
[edit] Path of Inspiration
hey yoko. i dont mean to impose but can you please make a main article about Path of Inspiration adventure pack with links to quests within? cuz it seems that youre the main person when it comes to PoI. i dont have access to that adpack or i would do it myself. so that we can include it in th adventure pack list. thnx - Sef326 07:24, November 25, 2009 (EST)
- Thnx man! Sef326 03:21, November 26, 2009 (EST)
[edit] Server
To answer your question, "everything" is fine with it now. The backup was less than a day old. We might have loss a few edits but, if so, the loss is minimal. --Borror0 21:03, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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